Anyone running a PX1153PC, Thoughts on this one?

[KFHOLBROOK]

I am looking at buying a PX1153PC for my 180 farm. I would use it for mowing (batwing), loader work, subsoiling, pasture renovation, hay production, etc. I have been comparing to JD 5100M and 6110M tractors. Any one using the PX 1153 have any thoughts or advice ?

 

[Bavarian]

I am looking at buying a PX1153PC for my 180 farm. I would use it for mowing (batwing), loader work, subsoiling, pasture renovation, hay production, etc. I have been comparing to JD 5100M and 6110M tractors. Any one using the PX 1153 have any thoughts or advice ?

First of all, the JD-M series is a whole different animal with their full frame design. Built for loader work.
Now to my story. I still think I'm overpowered and wanted to step down from a 6430 premium. I had something to pick up at Kioti dealer and took one for a short test drive. Their turning circle is incredible over the JD due to the different front axle design. The way I understood the advertising, they don't use a DPF filter, just a DOC with urea. But it seems like the Doosan engine is somehow restricted in the power when not fully warmed up and the DOC works properly.
The transmission shifts smooth and easy. The gear leaver and loader control are a little bit turned outwards. That means, they are layd out more ergonomically and are easier to push or pull that way.
What I found, the loader arms are mounted very low on the tractor compared to JD. This is blocking the view on the loader bucket on the ground when you look down between the hood and front wheel. The loader on the JD is way faster due to a higher gpm output on the hydraulics.
I've contacted a friend of mine regarding that 3.5 ltr Doosan engine. He is selling Doosan heavy equipment in Germany and got first hand info from Doosan. They had issues with fuel management and some engine control. Those issues should have been solved by Doosan on engines built in the 2nd half of 2016 or later.
The after treatment is not covered under the 7(?) Year powertrain warranty, regarding my dealer.
I hope this does help in making your decision.
I still hang on to my 6430. It is beefier and at this point, there is not a big financial difference in the payments. It's not worth it to trade or change.
If you compare the Kioti to a 6110M you will see a big difference in the new purchase prices.

 

[MickeyDBC]

The aftertreatment system should be covered under the federal emissions system warranty. They are generally five years but do have an hour limit for industrial equipment.

 

[KFHOLBROOK]

Does the Kioti PX have a full frame or are they similar to the E model JD's which do not have a full frame?

 

[Bavarian]

Does the Kioti PX have a full frame or are they similar to the E model JD's which do not have a full frame?

No frame. For the loader, they run supports back to the rear axle. Which causes some edges and corners underneath for stuff to catch on.

 

[mulespb]

I've not run the big PX series, but I'm very unhappy with my Kioti RX6010. In addition to breaking a clutch cable at 220 hours and having to fix many hydraulic leaks, the little 2.4 Liter Turbo motor has very little torque, even though rated at 60HP, feels like 45 50. And, it wants to run hot even with a clean radiator, new thermostat and hoses. I own 4 tractors.....1969 JD 4020, the RX6010C, Kubota L3400HST, and Farmtrac 435. The Kioti has been the most trouble, by far. Oh, and did I mention the terrible parts support Kioti gives their dealers?

 

[MickeyDBC]

That is a pretty big tractor for just having 60hp and being early in the Tier 4 emissions debacle and I would not be surprised about the lack of low end torque. I have a one year old RX7320 (73HP) with basically the same engine and it is a little soft down low on the rpm band but if you keep it at epto or pto speed it is fine. No problems with overheating even on 105 degree days pulling a 10 foot mower all day with the AC on full, and the only hydraulic leak I have had was an incorrect O-ring was installed with the additional remote - an easy fix. I suspect they have worked out a lot of bugs from the earlier models.

 

[KFHOLBROOK]

I bought the PX1153pc with creeper September 2018. I recently bought a 15 foot Land Pride folding wing mower. Over the winter I used the 84" Unlimited Fabricators Grapple moving brush and trees clearing for new fencing. I currently have 197 hours on the machine and have had the 50 hour service. I have been pulling the Land Pride last couple weeks. Week before last CEL came on and restricted rpms. Dealer came out ran codes and indicated difference between actual and calculated mass air. We checked air filter and passages all clear. Dealer ran a manual Regen and then cleared the codes. CEL went off. Last weekend after about 12 hours use CEL back on. I did the manual regen but CEL still on and rpms restricted. Waiting on Dealer to come back out and run the codes. I hope this does not become a weekly issue. Short of issues with the AC I have had no other issues with the tractor.

 

[Bavarian]

I bought the PX1153pc with creeper September 2018. I recently bought a 15 foot Land Pride folding wing mower. Over the winter I used the 84" Unlimited Fabricators Grapple moving brush and trees clearing for new fencing. I currently have 197 hours on the machine and have had the 50 hour service. I have been pulling the Land Pride last couple weeks. Week before last CEL came on and restricted rpms. Dealer came out ran codes and indicated difference between actual and calculated mass air. We checked air filter and passages all clear. Dealer ran a manual Regen and then cleared the codes. CEL went off. Last weekend after about 12 hours use CEL back on. I did the manual regen but CEL still on and rpms restricted. Waiting on Dealer to come back out and run the codes. I hope this does not become a weekly issue. Short of issues with the AC I have had no other issues with the tractor.

Maybe they have to do a software update. Ask the mechanic for it. There might be something out there which he's not aware of.

 

[KFHOLBROOK]

i asked when they came to address the first incident of the CEL. Claimed no update or re-flash was due based on build dates.