Anybody put hardwood flooring over concrete?

   / Anybody put hardwood flooring over concrete? #1  

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Our house has a stained concrete floor and we are thinking of going with a hardwood or laminate. I would really prefer solid hardwood, but not sure if it's a good idea or not.

I've seen some hardwood advertised as good to go over concrete, and some says not to do it because it will warp and buckle. I've also seen some instructions to glue it down directly to the concrete, while others "float".

Does anybody have any experience with this? The floor is above grade (not a basement) and has a vapor barrier under the slab.

Thanks for the help and ideas. Good luck and take care.
 
   / Anybody put hardwood flooring over concrete? #2  
real hardwood needs to be able to expand and contract so a gap needs to be around the perimeter, the composite flooring I do not know about. The real hardwood would need some kind of sleepers or something to nail the floor down to.
 
   / Anybody put hardwood flooring over concrete? #3  
I don't have "real" hardwood ... I have the "floating" lock together flooring on concrete slab ... I installed it 8 years ago and have had no problems with it.

Easy to do, comes with a thin foam (in a roll) that goes down first and the floor planks are about
7" by 48" and stager the joints, lock them together and the whole floor floats.

It appears to be some darn tough stuff ... not a mark or scratch over the years.
 
   / Anybody put hardwood flooring over concrete? #4  
Have a laminate floor in my basement, laid a 6mil plastic sheet and the laminate had a backer all ready on it. Works good as long as no moisture gets on it above or below. Dog had a accident and we have a small raised section on a seam other than the sound its fine.
 
   / Anybody put hardwood flooring over concrete? #6  
We recently put a floating floor over concrete. At least a 2 mm foil/foam underlay is essential to prevent moisture and give it a nice feel and 'sound.' Ours was just a cheap material...basically its just woodgrain paper glued to MDF. Its hard and tough but I doubt it will take kindly to a spilled bucket of water. It will do us, but extra dollars spent on something waterproof, or a solid timber material, might suit you better.
 
   / Anybody put hardwood flooring over concrete? #7  
Something to try.

Take a 3x3 square of poly vapour barrier and Tuck tape it down. Do this in several spots.

Leave this for a few days.

See if you have and condensation.


Personally i wouldnt put hardwood on a slab, even if the above test is successful. But i'd use it as a gauge to determine if laminate would be an option.

On my above grade slab, im putting laminate over poly that has had all the seams taped.
 
   / Anybody put hardwood flooring over concrete? #8  
I went with the stained concrete look when I built my house and quickly started to hate it. I've never had anything that was so hard to keep clean, or showed dust like it does. It's super cold in the winter and it just doesn't feel nice to walk around on.

I tiled over most of it and while tile is cold and hard, it doesn't look dirty all the time and it feels nicer to walk on then the concrete. In my family room, I went with engineered wood. I do a lot of flooring jobs for a living and feel that you realyl get what you pay for in materials. The paper stuff with a picture of it is the cheapest, but it tends to develop ridges along the edges of each piece fairly quickly. The engineered is made from plywood with the top layer being real wood. I'm told that it can be re sanded and finished if it gets damaged, but I've never tried that.

Stick with the name brands and avoid the China discounted crap. Ignore the warrantee on anything you look at. All that means is that if you have a problem, they will ship you a replacement piece. Getting it installed is up to you and never part of any warrantee.

I went with Bruce and highly recomend it.

Something that is really important is choosing the best underlayment that you can. There seems to be three levels. The bottom end is a thin bubble wrap. It provides a vapor barrier like all the others, but it breaks down quickly and you end up without any sort of give to your floor, and it starts to make noise. It will also crack along the edges when it can't float properly. This is especially true with the paper type snap together floors.

The next two levels are what you want. One is a dense rubber type foam. It's pretty good and I've never heard of or seen any problems with it. The most expensive is the felt type pad that has a plastic liner. This is what I use and what I like the best. It's is super quiet, it feels real nice to walk on and I've never had or heard of any issues with it.

Be sure to leave a gap around the edges. Every time you stop on a floating floor, it expands a very small amount. Half an inch is plenty, just as long as it's not touching anything. If it's touching, you will start to hear squeeking and the edges will start to wear on each piece. On the paper floors, the edges will start to rise fairly quickly.

I don't have any experience with solid wood flooring on a concrete slab. I know they do it all the time, but I don't want to mess with it and have to deal with it if something goes wrong down the line. It's also a bigger job sanding and staining it then installing it. I have done that a few times and it's not a fun job.

Good luck,
Eddie
 

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   / Anybody put hardwood flooring over concrete? #9  
I glued hardwood-faced plywood directly over a slab 25 years ago and the only problem I ever had was where the slab wasn't level. There was a dished spot about 18" in diameter in the concrete, and the floor had some give there. Drilled a few small holes and injected epoxy which took care of the problem. The holes were small and I chose an epoxy of the correct color so the holes were barely noticeable.

When the house burned down, the floor was destroyed, but that is not a floor problem.

I got the materials at Color Tile, but that was a long time ago and I don't know if they still have it.

I do know that when I rebuilt the house, I used a similar system, but "professional" grade flooring had a much thinner layer of the hardwood on the face side.

The floor will be cold. If you want warm, use carpet.
 
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...When the house burned down, the floor was destroyed, but that is not a floor problem.
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