Another front blower driven from the rear PTO

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JCByrd24

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John Deere 2320
Just finished up a recent project. My plow truck went in a divorce and I did the rear snowblower for 1 year after that. I liked the blower but hated going backwards and only having 3 rear speeds vs 9 forward, none were right in reverse. I started planning the front blower and found a John Deere 47" that would turn out to work very well. I toyed around with putting the rear one up front but the rotation was the wrong direction, was about 100lbs heavier (not good without power steering), and would stick out further due to the gearbox being behind the impeller instead of in the middle of the auger.

Please ignore the horrible paint job, too cold to spray so had to do it with a brush in the basement and potential snow was coming.

This is the overall product.
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Closer look at the front end. The deere blower was not permanently modified. I unbolted the sprockets and associated bracket that reduce the roughly 2000rpm deere mid PTO to 950rpm impeller speed. I will run the blower with my 1000 RPM PTO speed. I made a bracket that uses existing holes in the blower to accept the upper link attachment (a weld on toplink ball). The other end of the upper link pivots on bushings I turned on the lathe. I wanted a semi-parallel linkage vs a simple pivot like deere does to avoid the need for a CV shaft. Deere has vibration issues when the blower is raised without their new CV shaft, as I learned on this site.

The hydraulic cylinder is powered from an accessory port that uses the 3PT circuit so I can raise and float the blower with the 3pt lift lever (3pt gets locked with needle valve). Bottom links are Cat 0 top links which at $9 were cheaper than making something, and the adjustable length allows me to quickly tilt the blower on the shoes to either scrape the pavement or raise the cutting edge up a little for the gravel part of the driveway.
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Here's the mounting bracket. Bolts to existing holes in the front bumper and a couple of tabs I welded onto the frame doubler plate that is added to Yanmars when an FEL is installed. The pivot rod on the top link is extra long because it came with the tractor and I'm not sure what it's for so I didn't want to cut it short and it doesn't bother anything being a bit long. PTO shaft is a series 1 spreader shaft. I changed out the 6-spline yoke to a 1" keyed/smooth to mate up to the blower.
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This is the front bearing mount. Attaches to existing 4 bolts that hold the axle pivot pin. A short length of 6-spline shafting for surplus center comes through the bearing to meet the PTO shaft. Just behind the bearing the shaft was turned down to a close fit inside a 1.5" DOM tube and welded to it. That's the first section of the driveshaft.
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Here's the mid bearing. Lucked out here with 2 tapped holes in a perfectly flat surface in the bottom of the transmission housing. The front driveshaft ends just beyond this bearing with a female splined hub. The aft shaft is a short male splined section that slides into the front shaft and is welded to a u-joint yoke, the other yoke is welded to another section of DOM tube.
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Here's the business end. The whole business is bolted to the drawbar, more on that below. You can see the aft driveshaft coming back to a pillow block bearing. The tube is welded to a 1" solid shaft. I cut the keyways on the lathe using a endmill held in a collet and shafts in a boring bar holder. Sprockets are from surplus center. Driven sprocket is 1 tooth less than driving, given me an extra few percent of RPM. In total I'm about 10% over JD spec. The upper bearings are mounted in slots for chain tensioning. The rod with the wing nut at the top is used to set the tension before tightening the bearing bolts. I drilled and tapped the ends of the shafts so I could add a bolt with a large washer as a backup for the set-screws holding everything together. The PTO shaft is another series 1 but in this case the yokes are back to back with no length change possible. The outer tube was cut flush with the yoke and the inner tube is just long enough to match the outer within the yoke. The roll pin on the outer yoke goes through both tubes. I removed the QD pin from the rear yoke so there is play lengthwise at the rear splined joint if necessary.
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The drawbar was modified with some fine thread bolts to hold it's location tight laterally, and a 7/8" washer tapped right in snug to make it tight vertically as well. This prevents noise/rattling and misalignment of the sprockets, though there is enough play that this step may not have been necessary.
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The chute rotation is stock hydraulic Deere with appropriate QDCs for my loader valve. I'm going to modify that soon for a little more travel as is commonly done. I also have a linear actuator for the chute deflector. Could have done hydraulic but this was cheaper and less likely to break the plastic hinge on the deflector. Finally I need to pull the augers and impeller and balance them. My driveshaft runs beautifully at 1000RPM but the impeller vibrates some and the augers rock the unit side to side. Another common issue. I will post on that separately.

Oh and I have a piece of 2" plate about 14" x 14" that will become a counterweight/chain guard so I don't back into something with the chain. It'll be 3pt mounted and just clear the chain drive. I don't have kids or pets that tend to play around the tractor so I'm not sure I will do a true chain guard, but we'll see.
 
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   / Another front blower driven from the rear PTO #2  
Well done! :thumbsup:

Your back and neck will thank you in the future. ;)
 
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Nice job! Thumbs up here too.

I only have two concerns--The reduced ground clearance and the open chain drive. Could be a PITA to drop all that stuff for spring clearance then reinstall in the fall. And the chain will most likely accumulate ice then stretch or break. I probably would have gone with a surplus wheel motor to drive the blower. That way it could be speed controlled as well as reversed if something got caught in it. But hey, what do I know. I don't do snow down here. :)
 
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Just to give you an idea of the $$$ savings you have accomplished. Five years ago - while at my local Kubota dealer - I noticed a brand new M7040 with a front mount PTO driven snow blower. The blower was a big( 98" or 108") Schulte. There was a "drop box" installed on the rear PTO and as I remember there were two carrier bearing on the driveline as it came forward. I was surprised, as I wondered who needed something like that and why they just didn't go with some form of hydraulic blower, up front. I was informed the new tractor and blower setup had just been purchased by the local school district and was going to be used to clear all the parking lots and paved roads around the school. They specifically wanted this type setup. At that time, this blower and PTO setup added an additional $15,000 to the total package price.
 
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Nice job! Thumbs up here too.

I only have two concerns--The reduced ground clearance and the open chain drive. Could be a PITA to drop all that stuff for spring clearance then reinstall in the fall. And the chain will most likely accumulate ice then stretch or break. I probably would have gone with a surplus wheel motor to drive the blower. That way it could be speed controlled as well as reversed if something got caught in it. But hey, what do I know. I don't do snow down here. :)

Ken, yes I considered the clearance loss but in winter it is really no big deal. It'll be about an hour each season to swap everything so certainly slower than some of the new systems but that'll give me a chance to do maintenance on everything. With regard to the chain I don't think it'll be an issue as both the deere blower and my 3PT blower have open chains, the 3PT one being partially inside the blower housing. You always have to clear out the blower after use if the snow is sticky and make sure it's not frozen up next time you go to use it. I did consider hydraulic briefly but that was significantly more expensive and also a lot less efficient, which on my little 18hp was a deal breaker. My driveline turns easily by hand even with the blower hooked up, there is not much power loss in this system.
 
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I like the way you used the toplinks as adjustable bottom links to vary your front geometry [ blower forward or rearward lean ]. I don't think you will have that muh trouble with the rear lower sproket/chain. Should outlast you....... :)
 
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Considering they want $2000+ for a used front mount pto box that works off the front pulley of the engine that's not a bad idea, you can always fab up a shield for the chain. I would hate to see what they want for the front pto box brand new.

 
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Kenneth! Haven't seen you around in quite a while, hope you're doing well!
 
   / Another front blower driven from the rear PTO #9  
I'm doing ok shaeff, just been busy. Bought me a 1971 Ford 4500 TLB which I am in the process of completely tearing it down, and rebuilding, here is a slide show of it

that I need to update that slideshow again.
 
   / Another front blower driven from the rear PTO #10  
That was a nice job running the pto to the front for the blower.
Years ago Ford had a front mount blower for the 3-4000 series tractor that had a 3 pt mounted pto drop box with a shaft drive to the front for the blower,
the blower mounted on the loader lift arms with limiters so you wouldn't lift it to high, didn't see to many of them.
 

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