Actual weight?

[jrbarnard]

Good morning all!

So, how much weight do you figure in?

I am trying to figure the "actual weight" of the tractor I am looking at.

The Branson site says the 3725CH is 4195. Is that dry weight without a loader? I think it is.

So, if I want to tow a loader and a box blade, any idea how much that adds?

I also figure in 12 gallons of Diesel and a 5-gallon backup. That is about, I think 102 lbs right there.

Add in a few misc items on the trailer..

Trying to figure out the towing weight of that configuration.

I put this in Safety because, to me, this is about Safety. Sorry if I put it in the wrong forum.

Russ

 

[CobyRupert]

Loaded tires or weights?
There's also 10 gallons of hydraulic oil to consider. And coolant.

A Branson BL25R loader with bucket weighs about 1160 pounds (pg. 14)
View attachment branson-fel-bl25r-series-operators-manual.pdf

I suspect that if you're splitting hairs this fine, I'm guessing it's probably not about safety as much as legality. :confused3:

 

[jrbarnard]

No, it is about safety, for me. Legality takes a back seat to safety, imo.... not sure about others.

Not splitting hairs, trying to get some sort of idea. See, I would never have thought about "dry weight" and not added coolant in.

I am fine with being off by 200-300 lbs, I will add a little on top, but I just was not sure what a realistic weight looked like.

So, figured to ask

Thanks Coby!

R

 

[RNeumann]

Typically the tractor weight doesn’t include the FEL as it is technically an option on most CUTs. So add the FEL, BB and who know what else and you have probably 7-8000#.
When I was shopping for trailers I was floored to learn it was common to put 2 3500# axles on an enclosed car hauler for a “7000# rating” - the only problem is the trailer weighs 3500# leaving only 3500# for cargo.....maybe a Yugo and your suitcase!!
I finally bit the bullet and purchased a trailer with 5200# axles and haven’t regretted it at all. I tow worry free knowing I’m not maxing out all parts like bearings, tires (especially tires!!!) and brakes plus the 8 lug wheels and tires are about the same size as the truck so spares are interchangeable. The up charge was about $1000 which also included the non leaf-spring type suspension- which supposedly is better.

 

[jrbarnard]

Yeppers! That is great advice. I am waiting on an answer from Dodge to see if I will even be able to tow this thing, then will start looking for a trailer that will do what you ar discussing.

Thanks sir!

R

 

[cgutenschwager]

Yeppers! That is great advice. I am waiting on an answer from Dodge to see if I will even be able to tow this thing, then will start looking for a trailer that will do what you ar discussing.

Thanks sir!

R

jrbarnard - It sounds like your machine with loader and box blade is 6000-6500#. I haul these all the time for dealers or customers buying them. I have a 22' tilt deck trailer rated at 14,000gvw. I hardly feel it behind my Cummins powered 2007 ram2500. What type of truck/trailer are you thinking?

 

[RNeumann]

Yeppers! That is great advice. I am waiting on an answer from Dodge to see if I will even be able to tow this thing, then will start looking for a trailer that will do what you ar discussing.

Thanks sir!

R

I believe they figure about 10% of the total trailer weight is tongue weight. Seems a lot of hitches and vehicles want/show that spec.

Also spend the extra few bucks for the inertia style brake controller. They work really well- very smooth.

This product is also a dream!!
Weight Distribution Hitch | Andersen Hitches
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[jrbarnard]

Oh lord... I traded my 5yr old Ford for a new 2018 Dodge Quad v-6 with turbo Diesel. At the time, I was not contemplating a tractor "for real" lol.. but.. application approved, can get one.. dang riding mower had a flat.. BAM!.. daddy moves fast lol

I want to be safe. I want my kiddos to be safe when riding with me towing.. and.. frankly.. I would love to be able to haul it myself. Debating whether that will be doable.. or do I need to downsize and thus forget about the cab... or say to heck with it and daddy gets air conditioning lol

Right now, debating one of the following:

All Branson btw

1 - 3725CH with box blade and bucket (do not see myself towing it with the 6ft cutter)

2 - 2400H with Backhoe, Box Blade, Cutter (4ft on each of those), auger and 20ft trailer

3 - 2400h with all the above but no backhoe, maybe no cutter, substitute the cutter and backhoe for a zero-turn

4 - Get a 3015 or 3510 outfitted the same


All the lower options mean no A/C but I can easily town

The top one get s a/c, but I need to make sure or at least SEE if it is safe to tow with my truck.

So, about to call and pull the trigger, after I fix a server issue here at work...

Thanks for the great tips!

R

 

[cgutenschwager]

" I traded my 5yr old Ford for a new 2018 Dodge Quad v-6 with turbo Diesel."

Probably a good deal IMO - are you referring to a 2018 cummins? (that's actually an inline 6, not V) If you have a 2500/3500 truck and a good trailer with brakes I don't see a problem with any of those. Go for the AC (i'm not a fan of cabs until it's 100 outside!):cool2:

 

[jrbarnard]

Oh no, this is a gas engine Dodge. I had a 2009 Ford and it was awesome. My wife had someone run into her car, so figured they would total it and we would have a new payment, so "lowered my payment" on the truck and traded it for a 2013 Ford. Hated it. Was lower to the ground, had some weird issue with the starting electrical system...so her Grandparents gave her their 2008 Caddt SRX and I went, "nope.. not going to have 2 10+ yr old vehicles in 3-5 years die at once" so sold the Ford and got a **** of a deal on a Dodge.

The Ford bottomed out at the ranch and smashed the tranny pan. Since then, I did not do jack with it, I used the Polaris Ranger, thus did not need more than what this gas Dodge 2-wheel drive offered with 6-cylinder twin turbo 3.6l

It gets awesome gas mileage and drives well, and says it tows up to 7000 or 8200 or whatever, depending where you read lol