5th wheel hitch for 3 point.

[ranger danger]

I have a 25' 5th wheel flatbed trailer I want to be able to pull with my Kubota M6060. I use it on my property to move stuff. I also intend to use it in some of the local parades. It has a 5th wheel hitch, not a gooseneck. I haven't been able to find anything pre-built. Anyone done anything like this?

 

[4570Man]

I’d buy the cheapest 5th wheel hitch you can buy and then weld the head on a 3 point mount.

 

[ranger danger]

I found a used one on C/L for $75. I think I could weld it on the top of a 3 point something.

 

[Tomtint]

Whats the hitch weight of your 5th wheel ? can the 3ph handle it ?

 

[Rustyiron]

I think that you'll need to involve a dolly of some sort. The pin on even the shortest trailers is about 3' back from the nose. Then visualize how much you'll need to turn to 45*.
That's getting the load (pin) back pretty far from the lifting point of your 3pt hitch not to mention the axle.
Then there's the height of the pin, easily 40"+ off the ground and sufficient clearance under the landing gear not to mention the trailer's axle location that generally is very close to the rear of the trailer meaning the you tractor will be supporting at least 60-75% off the weight.
I like your idea, but think that you need a much larger and heavier tractor to be reasonably safe.

 

[LouNY]

And possibly a method to apply some brakes.

 

[ranger danger]

Hitch weight empty is about 650lbs. Tractor lift capacity is 3300lbs. The trailer is rated for 25k but I would never try to move it with the tractor anywhere near that heavy.

This is a flatbed. The hitch is 7' in front of the deck. The tractor weights 9k+. I tow the trailer with a truck that weights 7k. I appreciate mentioning the pivot point and leverage. Thats more to consider!

The tractor has a 7 way light plug on it. Brakes is another good point.

 

[Gee Ray]

I had 27 foot goose neck with a 2 5/16 ball. I had a ball welded to the top of the post of a 3 point hay bale spike. I was able to pull the trailer with my cab TL80A. The only problem was the trailer had a deck over the neck so it limited how sharp I could turn. Used it in parades and as a hay ride for several occasions. 40-50 people with no problems. I would wrap x-mas lights around the trailer on the railings and with no brakes. I covered the spike with a piece of PVC to keep from stabbing someone, it also keep people from walking between the tractor and the trailer.

I see no reason the 5th wheel hitch would not work as well.

 

[Xfaxman]

It has a 5th wheel hitch, not a gooseneck.

Since it looks like a gooseneck in your picture, can you post a picture of the hitch that is on the trailer?

 

[Rustyiron]

I had a short "pup" conventional tractor/trailer flat bed in mind.
You threw me off saying it wasn't a gooseneck. It's a 5th wheel g/n. "Gooseneck" pretty much describes the hitch configuration, ball or 5th wheel is basically incidental to the conversation.
I occasionally move my excavator around the property with my g/n. The only caution is (obviously) braking, but a short chain securing whatever hitch you come up with to the tractors drawbar to prevent uplift is a good idea especially while loading.