50 hr service

[FF117]

I'm almost due for the 50 hr service on my 4720h, so I stopped by the dealer yesterday and got the filters (2 hydraulic, 1 engine oil, and fuel). Total came to $63 and the dealer recommended that I get fluids elsewhere as they would be cheaper.

My manual recommends Branson, Texaco TDH oil (1893), or Chevron Tractor HYD Fluid. I haven't been able to locate these locally.

The local farm store has about 8 different varieties of hydraulic fluid ranging from $40-55 per 5 gal. Most of those are Mystic brand.

Sam's Club has hydraulic/transmission AW46 for $33/5 gal.

I don't know if any of the fluids that I found are equal to Branson's recommendations, but many of them have other manufacturers spec listed on the label. Most notably John Deere J20C and JDM. I just want to know that I am using the proper oil that will perform well and not void my warranty. I am also interested in what others are running in their hydro Bransons.

 

[the fox 1940]

I'm almost due for the 50 hr service on my 4720h, so I stopped by the dealer yesterday and got the filters (2 hydraulic, 1 engine oil, and fuel). Total came to $63 and the dealer recommended that I get fluids elsewhere as they would be cheaper.

My manual recommends Branson, Texaco TDH oil (1893), or Chevron Tractor HYD Fluid. I haven't been able to locate these locally.

The local farm store has about 8 different varieties of hydraulic fluid ranging from $40-55 per 5 gal. Most of those are Mystic brand.

Sam's Club has hydraulic/transmission AW46 for $33/5 gal.

I don't know if any of the fluids that I found are equal to Branson's recommendations, but many of them have other manufacturers spec listed on the label. Most notably John Deere J20C and JDM. I just want to know that I am using the proper oil that will perform well and not void my warranty. I am also interested in what others are running in their hydro Bransons.

Here in Nova Scotia my Dealer uses Shell Oil for there brand to use in the Branson's and Mahindra's. That is what he told me they use and he brought me down a gallon of Shell Trannie Oil .So I guess it does not Void the Warranty. If you want to know more you will make me walk out in the cold garage to get the info off the bottle.
The Fox.

 

[Canuck_49]

My 3510i is coming up for the 50 hour service and I too would like to know what fluids, filters etc. others are using. Also, can an average wrencher do the service themselves? I do all the R&M on my motorcycles, lawn tractor, chain saw etc. so I do know one end of a wrench from the other.

Bye-the-way Fox, I grew up next door in PEI. It's always nice to see a fellow Canuck post on a forum. Tough winter up there this year, eh?

 

[the fox 1940]

My 3510i is coming up for the 50 hour service and I too would like to know what fluids, filters etc. others are using. Also, can an average wrencher do the service themselves? I do all the R&M on my motorcycles, lawn tractor, chain saw etc. so I do know one end of a wrench from the other.

Bye-the-way Fox, I grew up next door in PEI. It's always nice to see a fellow Canuck post on a forum. Tough winter up there this year, eh?

If you know how to turn a wrench and unscrew the plugs in the bottom of the Tractor , then I would say you know how to change oil. It is not Rocket Science.Just make sure you put oil on th "0" ring of the filter, or you will have a hard time getting them off next time. make sure you document what you do and Keep the receipts , so if you ever have to go back to the dealer for Warranty you will have proof of doing it. Your manual should have information on where the plugs are and how much Oil it takes for each one.
What are you doing in Flordia ? We have had a lot of snow here this winter and it has not been to cold, Just a lot of SNOW.Glad I bought the Tractor.
The Fox

 

[Canuck_49]

Short version of a long story on getting to Florida.....job transfer, met a great lady, got hitched and settled down. Now counting down to retirement, hoping to spend part of the year in PEI and the rest RV'ing around Canada and the US.

 

[raeuber]

I'm almost due for the 50 hr service on my 4720h, so I stopped by the dealer yesterday and got the filters (2 hydraulic, 1 engine oil, and fuel). Total came to $63 and the dealer recommended that I get fluids elsewhere as they would be cheaper.

My manual recommends Branson, Texaco TDH oil (1893), or Chevron Tractor HYD Fluid. I haven't been able to locate these locally.

The local farm store has about 8 different varieties of hydraulic fluid ranging from $40-55 per 5 gal. Most of those are Mystic brand.

Sam's Club has hydraulic/transmission AW46 for $33/5 gal.

I don't know if any of the fluids that I found are equal to Branson's recommendations, but many of them have other manufacturers spec listed on the label. Most notably John Deere J20C and JDM. I just want to know that I am using the proper oil that will perform well and not void my warranty. I am also interested in what others are running in their hydro Bransons.

To get back on track with the question at hand. I am guessing because you are only at your 50 hour service, that your 4720 is a new model year? Reason for asking, I have a 4220 (2005) and mine does not recommend the fluid you list here. My manual calls for TF-500 fluid. (which I cross referenced to HyGuard J20C) I am saying this because your Texaco TDH also cross references to the same J20C specs.

 

[FF117]

Thanks for the replies. My tractor is a new model year, it was ordered in July 2010. I did some more searching and found this page http://http://www.hwpetro.com/_fileCabinet/TexacoData/TDH-Special.pdf. Like raeuber mentioned, the Texaco TDH is specifically formulated to meet John Deere J20C. So I suppose if the oil I pick meets J20C it should be OK to use in my tractor.

That said, I made a mistake in the original post. Sam's has two types to choose from: AW46 and Heavy Duty Hydraulic/Transmission Oil. The AW46 doesn't list any specs, but the HD Hyd/Trans oil lists several major manufacturers oil specs (including JD J20C) and its quite a bit cheaper than comparable oil elsewhere. Unless I find a better deal I will probably use the Sam's hydraulic oil and Rotella 15w-40 engine oil. My manual recommends 10w-40, but the dealer said he uses 15w-40.

 

[Hoosier Hay Man]

Thanks for the replies. My tractor is a new model year, it was ordered in July 2010. I did some more searching and found this page http://http://www.hwpetro.com/_fileCabinet/TexacoData/TDH-Special.pdf. Like raeuber mentioned, the Texaco TDH is specifically formulated to meet John Deere J20C. So I suppose if the oil I pick meets J20C it should be OK to use in my tractor.

That said, I made a mistake in the original post. Sam's has two types to choose from: AW46 and Heavy Duty Hydraulic/Transmission Oil. The AW46 doesn't list any specs, but the HD Hyd/Trans oil lists several major manufacturers oil specs (including JD J20C) and its quite a bit cheaper than comparable oil elsewhere. Unless I find a better deal I will probably use the Sam's hydraulic oil and Rotella 15w-40 engine oil. My manual recommends 10w-40, but the dealer said he uses 15w-40.

Here is a cross reference chart my Kioti dealer gave to me. I hope this helps.:thumbsup:

 

[Stimw]

Just a couple items, you will need 3- 5 gal buckets to drain the hydraulic fluid. You will need to switch buckets as they fill.
There is a drain plug under the driveshaft at the rear.
It's easier if you jack up the right rear, place on jack stand and remove the tire.

 

[MicroPilot]

...It's easier if you jack up the right rear, place on jack stand and remove the tire.

Would definitely be easier, but IMO that extra work wouldn't be worth it. The plugs and screen filter are not difficult to get at with the tire on.