Well I arrived at this forum about 3 months ago. After reading everything I could get my hands on I decided to return the X585 and move up to the 4010. WOW, thanks guys, this thing is unbelievable. I have the 60 inch finish mower, FEL, i-match, ballast box. I put 4 hours on it saturday, moving wood that I'm clearing. What a time saver. JD stood behind there promise and got me what I wanted. Thought about the 4115, but after reading the posts where guys lost traction before power, I decided to go with the 4010 and love this thing. Anyway, thanks again and have a great summer. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif