2160 Battery Charging problem

[Melissa]

Hi. I have a model 2160 and I have been having issues with my battery staying charged. I bought a new battery thinking that it was weak and would not hold a charge. Even with the new battery it is not staying charged. The battery light comes on when the PTO is engaged. And if I start it to go do something with it and then turn it off it will not start again.

Now obviously the charging system is not right. We are thinking either alternator or voltage regulator.

Does anyone have a way to test these so I know which one is bad? Or is there one known to go bad?

Thanks

 

[BTDT]

Welcome to TBN. Sorry no one has responded to your question yet. I am not that familiar with your unit, but could it be 1) engine speed not fast enough when you engage pto, or 2) if pto is operated electrically like the clutch on an air conditioner compressor (maybe you have a bad coil drawing too many amps). Does it pull the engine down a lot when pto engaged, any strange squealing noises like maybe a bad bearing, etc? Could it be a bad connection/cable at the battery or where it attatches to ground? Good luck, maybe someone with a similar unit will chime in soon, possibly LBrown59, he's fond of CC's.

 

[BoobyTrap]

SOUNDS LIKE A BLOWN FUSE. IT WILL START, BUT IT'S NOT CHARGING THE BATTERY WHEN RUNNING. THE PTO IS AN ELECTROMAGNET, SO WHEN YOU TURN THE PTO ON, IT'S INDICATING YOU'RE PULLING OFF OF THE BATTERY. REASON FOR BLOWN FUSE? DO YOU WASH IT OFF W/A WATER HOSE? BEEN THERE, DONE THAT. OR A WIRE HAS RUBBED SOMEWHERE AND SHORTED. JUST MY TWO CENTS. KNIGHTMAN

 

[tommu56]

Melissa

Welcome to the site.

What type of engine is in it alot of us don't know model's but most use standard engines Kohler or Kawasaki or Briggs etc and might be familiar with that motor and we could help from there.


tom

 

[Melissa]

Thanks for the welcome.

The engine is a Briggs

No blown fuses already checked that. Yes we have washed it down before but not often. No it is not making any noises when the PTO is engaged.

Even if I do not mow and use it for pulling a wagon of leaves, if I shut the engine off it will not restart. So it is not just with the PTO it is when it is just running as well.

Of course the light comes on when the PTO is engaged as it is drawing more power from the battery.

This issue is around even when not mowing so I do not think it has anything to do with the PTO.

We have checked wires and everything and they all look good.

The battery cables are good as well as we replaced them.

So something is not charging it while running and I want to figure it out before I try to just replace parts.

Thanks

 

[7254t]

its ether the voltage regulator or the stater.

 

[Melissa]

its ether the voltage regulator or the stater.

How do I tell which one it is?

 

[JTKub]

I'd start by pulling fuses to see what fuse being pulled stops the battery from discharging. If none have an effect, I'd look into the charging system next. I have also seen new batteries off the shelf not take a charge. Check the date of manufacture on that battery if you can.

Joel

 

[Rhoderman]

A couple of comments:

My battery in my CC 2042 just died last week. It was only 2 years old. It had a dead cell. The voltage was 12V until you touched off the starter for a second w/o starting it. Then it dropped to 10V, indicating a dead cell. I didn't even bother with any warranty or pro-rated stuff. A new battery was $25.

If your tractor has an hour meter on it, there are a couple things you can do. One is to observe the number that comes up when you turn the key to ON w/o starting it. It will show the voltage first (like 12.2), then flip to the hours. Once you have it running, throttle up to full, then flip the key momentarily to OFF and then back ON again quickly. Observe the voltage on the meter. If it shows 13.8 or something near that, your alternator and V Reg are fine, as that is the proper voltage for charging the battery. If it shows 12V or so, you have something wrong with your alternator or regulator.

The regulator on mine is on the LH side of the fan shroud on the engine (I think). If you can locate yours, check to see if the wires are clean and tight. Also check the battery terminals. Sometimes they will be corroded enough you can start it, but the corrosion builds up resistance and prevents proper charging.

Good Luck with it!

Jim

 

[mark1]

you might check the connector at the engine shroud.Mine has a 3-4 terminal plastic pulg in.one of the terminals mustof pushed back into the plastic and did not make a good contact with the opposite terminal. I didn't find it till I noticed the plastic connector partially melted. I had some of the same problems of PTO not engaging and engine wouldn't start because of low battery.