2009 DK35SE Question

[Mike476]

Hello all,

I've found TBN to be an excellent place to get a feel for how people like their machines, brand loyalty aside. I'll admit I'm a MF guy but having stopped off at a Kioti dealer near me yesterday and taking a look at a DK35SE he has on the lot, I have to say I'm impressed!

Built like a tank it looks like it would take anything I would throw at it. The dealer has it on the lot, 8 hours on it, and is selling for 22K cash sale (Cdn) before taxes. Apparently he begins making payments on it next month and is looking to move it.

In my conversation I asked him if there were any problems / weaknesses with the tractor after telling him what I need one for, he mentioned that they provide an additive for the fuel system that will prevent issues with a lack of lubrication causing pump failure. Have any of you experienced this or are there plans to re-engineer the fuel pump to prevent this requirement? The bottle sells for about 20 dollars and is good for around 100 gals (450 litres) but still seems to me like something that shouldn't be necessary. Is it a real issue or is the dealer being overly cautious, although I respect his having made me aware of a potential problem.

Thanks in advance for your input.

 

[MotorSeven]

A fuel additive to prevent pump failure???

Horse apples

 

[Mike476]

Not being familiar with diesels, mine is a gasser, I spoke to my neighbour this morning about it. Apparently the reductions in sulphurs in diesels takes away some of its lubrication properties, he plans to run it in his and has spoken with people who run diesels in their trucks that do the same.

Don't know if it's just here in Canada or if it applies to all of North America.??

 

[Hawghauler]

I have had to run literally thousands of diesels on JP-8 in the middle east for years, in unforgiving temperatures. JP-8 is more refined and we had we had concerns. We added a smidge of engine oil into the tank occasionally and never had any premature failures. We were particularly worried about thermokings and they held up fine also. I suppose there are more scientific methods, and maybe what we did was a placebo, but it worked or fooled us. We also had a device that took the crankcase oil, filtered it, and blended it back into the fuel tank and we reduced haz/mat disposal and burned the used oil with no ill effects. Keep in mind we did not do that for aviation equipment, just trucks and generators. Old timers used Mystery Oil as a "Top Cylinder Lubricant"

 

[Mike476]

Had some problems running turbo props and fans in the middle east myself but was more to do with contaminated fuel than anything. We do run FSII (fuel system icing inhibitor) in JP-8 to keep the filters from gumming up when working up north, can get into trouble pretty quick without it.

I find it interesting that it might only be something we in Canada have to concern ourselves with, not a big deal, just wondering if it was an engineering problem specific to Kioti but it's beginning to look like it has more to do with the fuel than the motor.

DK35SE sure is a strong looking tractor, waiting for my MF dealer to receive a 1635 and 1643 for me to look at, should be an interesting comparison.

 

[MichiganIron]

Diesel fuel additives are just a good idea for the newer low sulfur fuels. It doesn't take much to treat a tank, and adds a great deal of lubricity.

We have started to carry the Kioti additive also.

 

[wallace]

Hello all,

I've found TBN to be an excellent place to get a feel for how people like their machines, brand loyalty aside. I'll admit I'm a MF guy but having stopped off at a Kioti dealer near me yesterday and taking a look at a DK35SE he has on the lot, I have to say I'm impressed!

Built like a tank it looks like it would take anything I would throw at it. The dealer has it on the lot, 8 hours on it, and is selling for 22K cash sale (Cdn) before taxes. Apparently he begins making payments on it next month and is looking to move it.

In my conversation I asked him if there were any problems / weaknesses with the tractor after telling him what I need one for, he mentioned that they provide an additive for the fuel system that will prevent issues with a lack of lubrication causing pump failure. Have any of you experienced this or are there plans to re-engineer the fuel pump to prevent this requirement? The bottle sells for about 20 dollars and is good for around 100 gals (450 litres) but still seems to me like something that shouldn't be necessary. Is it a real issue or is the dealer being overly cautious, although I respect his having made me aware of a potential problem.

Thanks in advance for your input.

The dealer told you this was required?

 

[IslandTractor]

I don't use a specific diesel additive but someone on TBN convinced me to dump a little (2oz/5gallons) of 2 cycle outboard oil into my diesel. Did it last year and did not notice any excessive smoking. Presumably it does increase lubrication a bit and might be handy for those who keep that sort of oil around anyways.

(Nice to see Rick still checking us out here even though he's gone to the light side).

 

[Gittyup]

I only have a CK25. But, there are known issues with some of the earlier CK (mine is a 2006) fuel injector pumps failing at about 300 hours, as mine did. I was told the pump was redesigned with better, less brittle gears. Mine was replaced under warranty with the new design. After that, I started adding power service to every tank just to be safe. The tractor also runs better with the PS, or at least appears to. PS comes in two flavors. I add a little of both.

 

[MichiganIron]

Just don't use the Red Power Service bottle on a regular basis. The 911 stuff is just for an emergency gelled system. It contains alcohol which isn't good for the system used regularly.