2003 John Deere 790

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R_Mikell21

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2003 John Deere 790
I have a 2003 JD 790, it didn’t come with a loader. I found a used Westendorf TA-111, bought a new SCV, and all the lines needed. Got the loader mounted, the SCV and all lines installed. I’m not getting any pressure to the SCV. The 3 point and PTO work great. I’m at a loss at this point. Can anyone give advice on what the problem might be or what steps I need to take to get pressure to the SCV?
 
   / 2003 John Deere 790 #2  
Pretty hard to tell from here. Obviously something is plumbed wrong, but we're not looking at it. You kind of need to explain what all you changed, what was added, and maybe what directions you followed (if any). Some clear photos of the plumbing would go a long way too. Along with accurate descriptions of the various lines, like where they come from and where they go. Details matter.
 
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First off, thank you for the reply. I know, I’m sorry, I’m trying to explain it to the best of my ability. But I haven’t changed anything, I have added everything. SCV and all the lines are brand new because the tractor didn’t come a loader or SCV or any of the lines. Everything is plumbed correctly, I get fluid flow out of every output but just no pressure. The photos are of the SCV and all the lines that connect to tractor, minus the one with the gauge because I’m testing pressure but there is supposed to be a line there as well
 

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   / 2003 John Deere 790 #4  
Forgive the play on words here, but I don't see how you can "add everything" and not "change anything". That doesn't work in my world.

That said, the SCV must have a dedicated relief valve that comes into play for the work ports. Yes/no? The gauge you have pictured. It's not plugged into any of the work port couplers so what part of the system is it monitoring? The three point and PTO work. Three point will lift a load or just go up and down with nothing on it? PTO will pull a load or just spin an empty shaft? It doesn't require much pressure to do any of that.

The SCV has seven lines. Four go to couplers. Where do the other three go? One appears to go to the lift housing but what about the other two? Is there a power beyond sleeve on the valve as well as a sump return line?
 
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The line the that is clearly shown is the return, the port that has the gauge is the supply and the sump line is below. The relief valve is directly above the port with the gauge connected to it. 3 point will lift a load and PTO will also pull a load. There is no power beyond
 

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   / 2003 John Deere 790 #6  
Good chance that without power beyond all the pressure is going to sump. Then again, not knowing where the oil comes from to this new valve, even that doesn't add up. The pressure line to the SCV. Where on the tractor does that come from?
 
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This line is from the hydraulic pump. The relief valve is directly behind it and the supply port for the SCV is directly below that. That’s why I can’t wrap my head around why there is no pressure to the supply port.
 

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   / 2003 John Deere 790 #8  
If your plumbing is indeed correct, then there must be a port or internal passage somewhere that needs to be plugged or blocked in order for power beyond to function. Any time open center valves are connected in series power beyond is a necessary function for proper operation. While I understand hydraulics, I don't necessarily understand all things Yanmar. I have found other models where adding a valve required going in and installing a plug to separate certain internal passages to get it to work. I think that may well be where you are.
 
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You have to install a 'plug' into one of the ports on the trans to get it to work. I have the info somewhere...figured it out for a customer doing the same thing a few months ago.

EDIT: I learned all this in part while developing our custom Power Beyond BM18005 kit for the 790/3005 tarctors.
 
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See Below:

Tony...done LOTS of research on this, holy cow you owe me a beer or three!

The pics I sent before show the correct IN and return to tank ports, they are the same on your machine.

For the OUT port, you will be removing this 'bolt', then threading in a 'plug' that I have already ordered from my JD dealer, then adding a fitting to connect the hose to.

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