I'm looking at buying a 2001 NH TC35 12x12 shuttle with 16LA loader for $12,500. It comes with disc, a nearly new 4ft bush hog and a box blade. Is This is fair deal? Is 3700 hours too much? Guy doesn't want to come down on it. Besides the paint being a little sun faded, it is in good shape and seems to run well and have good power.
2001 New Holland TC 35 3700hrs loader - Good Deal or pass?
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crashz
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Dover where? Here in the Northeast, tractors are expensive.
That being said, I think 12.5K is high for a gear drive rig with those hours. Probably still has a lot of life in it, but I would be worried about the clutch. Implements count for some of that price, but I still think its high.
That being said, I think 12.5K is high for a gear drive rig with those hours. Probably still has a lot of life in it, but I would be worried about the clutch. Implements count for some of that price, but I still think its high.
atsah
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3700 hours and 18-19 years old would be to much for me but that's just me. I did own a TC35 and TC45 and I didn't care for either one. They lacked loader power IMO for the size of the tractor. Some people like them very much and have had good luck with them. As far as the price, I'm going to say it's a couple grand to high. At $10,000 it might be worth a chance.
I知 in Florida and agree it should be less but everything else comparable with less hours is in the 14- 16k range with no implements. The guy said the engine was overhauled 6 months ago with new pistons and rings due to it smoking. Hopefully that was done right. Implements is worth $1500 easy so tractor alone would come to 11k. Still not sold on it.
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4’ rotary cutter is a mismatch. Should be at least a 5’ if not a 6. Find out if it has had a clutch. Good chance it has.
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Even if the clutch has been replaced, it could actually be almost ready for a 2nd clutch.
Depends on loader use, and operator technique.
It's just me,... but if I were the OP, I would not even consider it, unless it could be bought for somewhere under $10K.
metalbender
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The "overhaul" at 3700 hrs would scare me. Depends on who did the work. Been a mech all my life, have seen way too many backyard overhauls {patch jobs}.
My thoughts on value:
I'm looking at buying a 2001 NH TC35 12x12 shuttle with 16LA loader - 6500-8500. Might get a tad more, but I think in a private seller sale thats close to what most would expect. Just something about this description that scares me - less hours and no "rebuild" you might be at 10k - lots of sellers asking the moon for things does not make things more valuable. Again, rebuild should not have been needed at this point, and who did the rebuild?
disc - $300-500
"nearly new 4' brushhog" - 750, new you can buy low end 4 footers for 1-1100, personally a small unit for a tractor of that size in my opinion. A more popular 5 or 6' model is not much more used - and would work well. Lots of SCUT out there that need a 4' - this is not one of them.
Box Blade - $500
So by my math - pieced out, you have a 10k bundle of goodies here. Buyer frenzy in an auction - you might see 12,500 total - but private seller and all or nothing, 12,500 is high.
Another way to think of this is "what do you need" - First figure the cost of a new unit that meets your needs - then price out comparable units used that meet your needs. The way I would view "comparable" units is Tier A. Deere/Kubota - Tier B. New Holland/Massey/Case and just below those Mahindra/LS/Kioti - PLEASE NOTE THIS IS NOT AN OPINION ON QUALITY - just an opinion on resale only! Lets be honest, a Deere is easier to resell used than a LS of equal size at the same price. I put a 30hp Deere out and a 30hp LS out with the same price - the Deere sells first - does not mean it will be a better unit, just easier to sell at a price point.
IF the NH is 50% of the price of a new unit that meets your needs - or 70% of a more recent used unit with under 1500 hours - I would say that is your "break even" point of savings. You can anticipate higher upkeep cost with more hours, but being honest - upkeep is a complete and total gamble. You can go years on a unit like this without needing anything - or you could hit a 4 figure repair days in. The only "known" is that it is more probable you would hit the big repair bill on a 2001 with 3500 hours than you likely would on a 2011 with 1100 hours for example.
IF you need the power for a unit of that size, its not a horrible deal - but a tad high. If your just looking for a tractor to fit your budget and thinking "bigger is better" - but could get by on a smaller sized unit - there are much better buys out there in the market if you shop around. Even in higher priced markets, shipping rates from cheaper markets are your best bet.
I'm looking at buying a 2001 NH TC35 12x12 shuttle with 16LA loader - 6500-8500. Might get a tad more, but I think in a private seller sale thats close to what most would expect. Just something about this description that scares me - less hours and no "rebuild" you might be at 10k - lots of sellers asking the moon for things does not make things more valuable. Again, rebuild should not have been needed at this point, and who did the rebuild?
disc - $300-500
"nearly new 4' brushhog" - 750, new you can buy low end 4 footers for 1-1100, personally a small unit for a tractor of that size in my opinion. A more popular 5 or 6' model is not much more used - and would work well. Lots of SCUT out there that need a 4' - this is not one of them.
Box Blade - $500
So by my math - pieced out, you have a 10k bundle of goodies here. Buyer frenzy in an auction - you might see 12,500 total - but private seller and all or nothing, 12,500 is high.
Another way to think of this is "what do you need" - First figure the cost of a new unit that meets your needs - then price out comparable units used that meet your needs. The way I would view "comparable" units is Tier A. Deere/Kubota - Tier B. New Holland/Massey/Case and just below those Mahindra/LS/Kioti - PLEASE NOTE THIS IS NOT AN OPINION ON QUALITY - just an opinion on resale only! Lets be honest, a Deere is easier to resell used than a LS of equal size at the same price. I put a 30hp Deere out and a 30hp LS out with the same price - the Deere sells first - does not mean it will be a better unit, just easier to sell at a price point.
IF the NH is 50% of the price of a new unit that meets your needs - or 70% of a more recent used unit with under 1500 hours - I would say that is your "break even" point of savings. You can anticipate higher upkeep cost with more hours, but being honest - upkeep is a complete and total gamble. You can go years on a unit like this without needing anything - or you could hit a 4 figure repair days in. The only "known" is that it is more probable you would hit the big repair bill on a 2001 with 3500 hours than you likely would on a 2011 with 1100 hours for example.
IF you need the power for a unit of that size, its not a horrible deal - but a tad high. If your just looking for a tractor to fit your budget and thinking "bigger is better" - but could get by on a smaller sized unit - there are much better buys out there in the market if you shop around. Even in higher priced markets, shipping rates from cheaper markets are your best bet.
grm61
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More than I would pay for a unit with 3700 hrs.
The motor should not have needed to be rebuilt at that point if it had been properly maintained....
Makes you wonder about the rest of the tractor...and who did the engine work....Plenty of machines out there I would pass..
The motor should not have needed to be rebuilt at that point if it had been properly maintained....
Makes you wonder about the rest of the tractor...and who did the engine work....Plenty of machines out there I would pass..
