1310 Transmission service

[kc5sii]

My I&T service manual makes no reference to how to service the manual transmission. I notice it has a little plug towards the top front of the tranny that looks like a filler plug.

Does it share the same reservoir of trans hyd fluid with the rest of the tractor or is it serviced separately with maybe gear oil?

Dave

 

[JC-jetro]

My I&T service manual makes no reference to how to service the manual transmission. I notice it has a little plug towards the top front of the tranny that looks like a filler plug.

Does it share the same reservoir of trans hyd fluid with the rest of the tractor or is it serviced separately with maybe gear oil?

Dave

Th e plug on top of transmission is the fill and you'll have two drains on transmission and one on bottom of diffy where the draw bar /hitch is. They share common oil and for hyd and transmission. Diffy housing is the sump. Ford 143a or equivalent is the oil. Filler plug does have a dip stick so you know how much to fill. You'll need about 19 US. qt to fill.



JC,

 

[kc5sii]

If I understand then as long as I have the right amount showing on the dipstick on the rear housing, I don't need to worry about the transmission lubricant level?

Dave

 

[JC-jetro]

If I understand then as long as I have the right amount showing on the dipstick on the rear housing, I don't need to worry about the transmission lubricant level?

Dave

Dave,
The level shows right amount of oil in transmission which translate to right amount of oil for differential and hyd system.

JC,
,
PS. Is dip stick not on your transmission cover?

 

[kc5sii]

The dipstick is in the differential under the front of the seat. I'll try to get you a picture.

 

[JC-jetro]

The dipstick is in the differential under the front of the seat. I'll try to get you a picture.

Dave,

Differential is right behind the seat. The housing that the rear axle goes thru is your differential and the cavity inside of it acts as a collection sump for your hyd system. Hyd pump suction and filtration starts from the differential in Ford 1700. I don't know if you have spin in hyd filter or screen in the diffy. What you refereed above is your transmission and cap/dipstick is mounted to transmission cover plate.

JC,

 

[kc5sii]

Here are a couple of pictures to be sure we are talking about the same components. The top view shows the dipstick toward the back on what I think you are referring to as the differential with the transmission in the front (left).

What got me asking the question is the small square plug at the front of the transmission. If it's filled from the dipstick hole, why do they have a plug at the front. I guess I can use a makeshift dipstick there next time I refill hyd fluid and see if the xmission level comes up with the differential.

The second picture shows a side view. It appears to me the transmission and the differential are not the same unit. I guess they can share fluid if they are mated with Orings or gaskets or something. Maybe I can tell from my service manuals exploded views.

Dave

 

[JC-jetro]

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Here are a couple of pictures to be sure we are talking about the same components. The top view shows the dipstick toward the back on what I think you are referring to as the differential with the transmission in the front (left).

What got me asking the question is the small square plug at the front of the transmission. If it's filled from the dipstick hole, why do they have a plug at the front. I guess I can use a makeshift dipstick there next time I refill hyd fluid and see if the xmission level comes up with the differential.

The second picture shows a side view. It appears to me the transmission and the differential are not the same unit. I guess they can share fluid if they are mated with Orings or gaskets or something. Maybe I can tell from my service manuals exploded views.

Dave

Dave,

Yes. Where your dipstick is the differential housing. On 1700 the dipstick is on transmission cover forward of the diffy. Works just about the same. As you said the diffy and transmission case are two separate castings, but they are open to one another. Oil can travel and maintain constant level in both housing. Splasher are used to aid lubrication in transmission housing and a housing aft of it. Please refer to two pdf files below. The plug that you identified is shown on the NH web site but they don't even call it on the dwg. I suppose it can be used to stick a piece of wire as dipstick but I would not do it. I can see it might be used a hyd oil return path to diffy for some hydraulic implement.

Affirmative on your second paragraph like I explained above.

JC,

 

[kc5sii]

Okay. Then I'm good to go. I was concearned becasue it makes a little more noise as I go faster. It's mainly in 9th gear (3rd Range 3rd Gear). My fear was thet the tranny was going dry. I'd always assumed the tranny and rear diff shared the same lubricant bath but need to know for sure before I broke something (else)!

 

[JC-jetro]

Good luck Dave!