110 TLB power beyond/backhoe hose?

mechatgsk · Oct 5, 2011

I just removed the backhoe from my 110 tlb and I am not real happy with the hose that must be reconnected. It sticks out behind the tractor and is in the way of the three point hitch movement. I assume it must return hydraulic fliud to create a continuious loop for the power beyond? I was thinking of removing the QD from backhoe and install on tractor with the other QD and just have a short hose made to complete the power beyond loop. Any suggestions?

Regards,
Mechatgsk

GreatWhitehunter · Oct 5, 2011

Take a pic, I believe you talking about the power beyond loop that needs to be reconnected to supply a return to the sump. There are a few options but a pic or two would help.

Matt

jenkinsph · Oct 5, 2011

mechatgsk said:
I just removed the backhoe from my 110 tlb and I am not real happy with the hose that must be reconnected. It sticks out behind the tractor and is in the way of the three point hitch movement. I assume it must return hydraulic fliud to create a continuious loop for the power beyond? I was thinking of removing the QD from backhoe and install on tractor with the other QD and just have a short hose made to complete the power beyond loop. Any suggestions?

Regards,
Mechatgsk

Take a picture of what you have because I never seem to have a problem with mine.

AKfish · Oct 6, 2011

Well... it's kinda long and it can be a bit troublesome keeping it off to the side so it doesn't get in the way of the 3pt when hooking up other implements.

But, it can be done --

I push the male end thru the gap between the ROPS and the inside of the fender and plug it into the female end of the Power Beyond from the top.

Make sense? Nonetheless, it's off to the right side and out of the way of the 3pt and any other attachments.

AKfish

mechatgsk · Oct 6, 2011

Here are the hose photo's.

Regards,
Mechatgsk

GreatWhitehunter · Oct 6, 2011

You can definatly shorten that up. Take a garden hose and fit it up the shortest you can with out crimping it. Measure it then go get a hose made. Problem solved.

Matt

jenkinsph · Oct 6, 2011

I will look at mine tomorrow to compare, certainly don't remember mine being in the way as yours is pictured.

I wouldn't shorten the hose yet, I suspect it wouldn't help with the problem but could make it difficult to hook up the backhoe.

AKfish · Oct 7, 2011

Mine's a 2008 model and it's identical to yours.

The male end will fit through the gap between the fender and the ROPS. Square up the flat surface of the male end with the flat side of the fender and slide it thru - bend it around the ROPS tube and connect.

DON'T shorten the hose!!!! As Steve mentioned - it'll make it much harder to disconnect and reconnect the hoe to the tractor.

AKfish

GreatWhitehunter · Oct 7, 2011

Does that hoes plug into the hoe directly? On the 4000 series that just loops back to the tractor and the hoe has it's own hoes. I was under the impression that hoe removal was the same process on the 110 as the 448/485

Matt

AKfish · Oct 7, 2011

GreatWhitehunter said:
Does that hoes plug into the hoe directly? On the 4000 series that just loops back to the tractor and the hoe has it's own hoes. I was under the impression that hoe removal was the same process on the 110 as the 448/485

Matt

There's 2 hoses. The hose on the tractor and another hose on the backhoe itself.

The male on the tractor hose plugs into the female connector on the hoe - the male hose on the hoe plugs into the female connector on the tractor... makes perfect sense - huh!?!

(I read and re-read that sentence and it confused me!

)

Nope - the 110 is a much different attachment than the 4000 series hoe. There are 2 - very large pins that slide into the left/right topside attachment points on the 110 hoe - (you can see the large mount hole in mechatgsk's picture).

The bottom attachment points are similar to the older, 8A-8B hoe. But, much more iron! The hoe frame drops into two, HD hooks on the rear of the tractor.

AKfish

GreatWhitehunter · Oct 7, 2011

Well the pins maybe larger but the 485 attaches the same way as you described. On the 485 there are two hoses on the hoe which plug into the tractor. The PB loop that's pictures would only be connected when the hoe's off.

Matt

mechatgsk · Oct 7, 2011

Guys,
I would like to take the hose pictured and put it on the backhoe. Then take the QD that's on backhoe and install on tractor. Now I will have two QD's on tractor and the two long hoses on backhoe. Then I will have a much shorter hose made to complete the Power beyond loop. Any opinions or suggestions?

Regards,
Mechatgsk

AKfish · Oct 8, 2011

mechatgsk said:
Guys,
I would like to take the hose pictured and put it on the backhoe. Then take the QD that's on backhoe and install on tractor. Now I will have two QD's on tractor and the two long hoses on backhoe. Then I will have a much shorter hose made to complete the Power beyond loop. Any opinions or suggestions?

Regards,
Mechatgsk

The hoses are identical - the one on the tractor and the other hose on the backhoe - presently. They are carbon copies of one other! Same length - same male and female couplers. So, you don't really have to "move" any of the hoses.

Nonetheless, if I understand correctly... basically, you're planning to add a "quick disconnect" into the middle of a "newer-shorter" tractor loop that you could then connect the longer hose into from the backhoe. Is that correct?

That would give you a short hose on the tractor and a longer loop of hose on the backhoe. I don't imagine that would be a problem, at all. Just another couple of connectors.

Biggest issue would be to ensure that the total length of the loop would be sufficient to allow for easy disconnect and re-connect of the hoe.

AKfish

RaytheOne · Oct 8, 2011

Mechatgsk,

I'm attaching a picture of mine for you to see how the hose lays. Maybe you can loosen the end without the QD fitting, and swivel it so the hose lays in a different position?

I agree, I don't think you should shorten it.

Good Luck!

J_J · Oct 8, 2011

Why not just make one loop in that hose and connect it to the QD's. They make hoses with a smaller bend radius, and that would be ideal.

jenkinsph · Oct 9, 2011

RaytheOne said:
Mechatgsk,

I'm attaching a picture of mine for you to see how the hose lays. Maybe you can loosen the end without the QD fitting, and swivel it so the hose lays in a different position?

I agree, I don't think you should shorten it.

Good Luck!

Good picture and this demonstrates the hose can be out of the way without modifications. I have my hoe on mine right now but haven't had any issues with this hose being in the way when using the 3PH. Setting your hose up as Ray has in this picture should solve your problems.

dsh82 · Jan 7, 2012

mechatgsk said:
Guys,
I would like to take the hose pictured and put it on the backhoe. Then take the QD that's on backhoe and install on tractor. Now I will have two QD's on tractor and the two long hoses on backhoe. Then I will have a much shorter hose made to complete the Power beyond loop. Any opinions or suggestions?

Regards,
Mechatgsk

I changed my fittings out to do just exactly that. I have Qds on both tractor ports. I have a short hose that I use for mowing and have just reconfigured the hoe hoses to work when attached. I can take pictures if you like and send you a material list. The bulkhead fitting that the hose is currently attached to needs to be swapped to use the qds like you want. No big deal though. If you want pics, let me know and I'll go out and thake them.

Dan