12 States to ban diesel vehicles

   / 12 States to ban diesel vehicles #192  
Well actually I do think your problems are fixable in New Zealand we do have free health care half the homeless rate of the USA and very little government/corporate corruption but you guys love your system so go for it but what I don't like is how you are stuffing the planet. burning fossal fuels. The rest of the world with far less resource's than the USA is able to build clean renewable energy why can't you
I looked at the list of your equipment in your profile and unless I'm mistaken none of them are electric. It looks like you are the same place we are at. We use the equipment that is most practical and efficient. Currently that is fossil fuel powered equipment/vehicles.
 
   / 12 States to ban diesel vehicles #193  
  • Still a long way to go but NZ is trying to reduce carbon emissions our national electric grid is running around 88 to 90 percent renewables
  • New Zealand currently has three fully electric ferries either in operation or launching in 2024–2025, with more under construction and planned for the coming years.
    • Ika Rere is New Zealand's first fully electric passenger ferry and has been operating in Wellington since 2022.
    • In Auckland, two new fully electric ferries designed by EV Maritime for Auckland Transport are being launched in 2025 and are expected to enter public service later this year.
    • In 2024, a 10-passenger electric hydrofoil ferry (VS-9) by Vessev entered service in Auckland, primarily for tourism and technology demonstration.
    • Additionally, at least two hybrid-electric ferries—with both electric and diesel propulsion—are under construction for Auckland, with service expected on the Devonport to Downtown route by 2026.
  • Class 6 heavy trucks in New Zealand refers to vehicles weighing between 18,001kg and 30,000kg, generally requiring a Class 6 RUC (Road User Charge) band. Electric heavy trucks in this category are usually seen in pilot fleets or as recent imports for trial, especially in the 2024–2025 period.
  • Several electric truck pilot programs and initial deliveries have been reported. For example, Auckland's Etrucks and Windrose have placed an initial order for 20 long-range electric Class 6 (or above) semi-tractors, with the first demo unit arriving in September 2025 and more to follow.
  • TR Group, one of the largest heavy vehicle leasing fleets in NZ, reports a "zero-emission fleet" of over 50 vehicles by late 2024, but this count covers all vehicle classes, not just Class 6 trucks.
SO are you ready to buy lease an EV class 6 truck or a new EV dozer? Sounds like you guys are in the same place of trial and error.
How many EV fishing boats are on trial? Sure the governments can spend money on dreams how many small businesses are doing it?
I'm not against change but against mandated change with out a proven solution in hand.
Our problem here is that the old grid (station and lines) can not cope the new loads being forced upon it. Many places ask the population to conserve electricity during high usage yet we want to double or quadruple needs with NO plan for upgrading the distribution system, the cost of which will dwarf the cost of generating more.
Many of us here live more spread out than most of the world and don't want be herded into cities. The distances involved are not imaginable to people used to being able to drive across their country in a day.
 
   / 12 States to ban diesel vehicles #194  
Wait until the climate crowd learns that sheep gas is as bad as cow gas.

Comparisons to NZ are just ridiculous. Isolated islands with the land mass of Colorado and the population of Louisiana. I have no opinion on how they want to live. I expect the same in reverse. We really don't need your approval to live our best lives.
 
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Comparisons to NZ are just ridiculous. Isolated islands with the land mass of Colorado and the population of Louisiana. I have no opinion on how they want to live.
I think the issue is really island nations with limited energy resources. It makes perfect sense that renewables, or nuclear would be the best energy choice. It again comes down to the best energy choice for the situation and not mandating a "one size fits all".
 
   / 12 States to ban diesel vehicles #196  
We really don't need your approval to live our best lives.
We haven't sunk our ship yet (USA) So goes the demands, so we can become them and buy in to the environmental hysteria that has hijacked economies in the western world. Not to mention the ability to defend themselves if a country like China or Russia chooses to intervene.

However this guy or gal seems bot-like, running the same usual gauntlet of programmed rhetoric, in line with continuously rinse and repeat based on the same narrative. (without the conscious of a real human)(AI) ... If not a bot then maybe a takeover of an account that once belonged to Daddy or uncle Jim? Just seems there is no connection to an actual independent thought process?

This AI stuff is really going to get the sheep herding at a level we have never seen before...as if it was not already a pandemic.
 
   / 12 States to ban diesel vehicles #197  
Going on past experience New Zealand should be more worried about USA than China look below on how USA treats its friends compared to China
Since 1945, the United States has engaged in a large number of covert and overt interventions in other countries, often to gain access to resources or otherwise protect its economic and strategic interests. Compared to China, the scale and frequency of these actions have been significantly higher.

United States​

  • The U.S. has conducted at least 64 covert and 6 overt attempts at regime change during the Cold War alone (1947–1989). Many of these actions had some connection to access to resources or economic interests—such as oil (the 1953 Iranian coup), minerals, or favorable investment environments.
  • Broader analyses count around 81 known U.S. interventions in foreign elections from 1946 to 2000, and nearly 400 military interventions from 1776 to 2023, with half occurring since 1950. While not all were resource-driven, many were at least partially motivated by the desire to secure access to vital resources or to create favorable conditions for American businesses.
  • Concrete examples include the 1953 Iranian coup (oil interests), repeated interventions in Latin America to secure agricultural and mining interests, and involvement in coups or conflicts in Africa and the Middle East related to strategic resources like oil and minerals.

China​

  • China’s approach has traditionally emphasized non-interference, especially during the Mao and Deng eras. Direct, overt, or covert regime change operations to gain resources have been very rare, especially compared to the U.S.
  • Since the rise of Xi Jinping, China has become more assertive internationally, primarily using economic means (loans, investment, the Belt and Road Initiative) and political influence, rather than military intervention or covert coups.
  • There are documented instances of covert influence campaigns and economic leverage—sometimes called “sharp power”—for political or commercial advantage (e.g., securing ports, mining rights, or critical minerals), as seen in the Pacific and parts of Africa. But these tend to involve debt diplomacy and economic pressure rather than direct intervention to install or overthrow governments.
  • Very few, if any, confirmed cases exist of China using outright regime change or military interventions post-1949 solely for gaining foreign resources. Its rare interventions have generally been to protect its citizens or strategic security (e.g., Korea in the 1950s), not to secure resources through direct intervention.

Comparison​

  • US: Dozens of overt and covert interventions aimed at regime change, many with an explicit or implicit goal to secure access to resources or safe business environments.
  • China: Minimal direct or covert interventions for regime change or resource gain; influence generally exerted through commercial, diplomatic, or economic means, particularly post-1978.
In summary: The United States has interfered—covertly and overtly—far more often than China in other countries since 1945, particularly for resource-related objectives. China’s mode of influence since opening up in the late 1970s has focused on economic inducement, infrastructure investment, and commercial leverage, generally not regime change.
The interest in regime change has to do with who is in agreement with business interests. Would you rather have a government more concerned with controlling their population?
China is in cahoots with Russia and North Korea and those nations are totally above board right?
I’m so happy for you that you’re more worried about the United States than any totalitarian country wanting to take over their neighbors.
I noticed you’ve glossed over the facts as you boast of how perfect your population is.
The state of Massachusetts has the same population as you do in your entire country and they’re just running fabulously with their narrative mirroring yours.
Let China be your friend and allow them to send a balloon surveillance mechanism as big as a bus over your country .
 
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When I hear about the evils of the US it gives me pause why so many risk so much to get here…

The American Dream is still alive and well… work hard so your kids will have it better… so many immigrants have told me this… especially Asian and Spanish speaking.
 
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When I hear about the evils of the US it gives me pause why so many risk so much to get here…

The American Dream is still alive and well… work hard so your kids will have it better… so many immigrants have told me do… especially Asian and Spanish speaking.
I found a bottle on the beach, and told the magic genie to take me to live in the best country on Earth. Nothing happened . . .
 
   / 12 States to ban diesel vehicles #200  
The American Dream is still alive and well… work hard so your kids will have it better… so many immigrants have told me this… especially Asian and Spanish speaking.
Are you insinuating that they know things that AI does not?
 

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