Mahindra 3550 codes: P1804 and P405

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Want to see if anyone has any ideas

I bought this tractor back in December...it's a 2019 with like 630hrs on it. Cab, loader, hst, etc. Wanted a cab for bushhogging. Now maybe regretting my decision to get a mahindra.

When I got it, I called my local dealer, mainly to get the operator manual but also inquire if any warranty left. Said there was still power train warranty until Feb or March this year

All winter tractor was fine. Didn't use it much. 15 min here or there moving snow.

Fast forward to a couple months ago (end of april-early may) I was bushhogging the waterway behind my house. Figure I'd give it a test run before my busy season hits and make sure everything is gonna work or I go back to my open station Kubota mx.

After about an hour of mowing....MIL came on, and check engine light started flashing. Power reduced and was hardly able to just drive. So I shut it off and counted to 10, restart, and everything was fine again and I was able to finish the 10 min I had left.

Got it back to the shop and plugged in a code reader and got code P1804

After doing some research, one of the "possible" causes seemed to be fuel cap related. And that there was an updated cap....or could modify old. But check and see if the fuel tank is trying to collapse. Sure enough....it was. So I modified the cap.

Next time I worked the tractor....no issues at all. But it was all small jobs and never running more than 45 min at a time.

Until today......slightly larger job. After mowing just shy of an hour ....same deal. MIL, check engine flashing, reduced power. I left code reader in cab with me. Yup ...P1804 again. So I shut down, clear code....and all is well. But 15 min later ..same thing. This time a P0405 (generic code reader says it's EGR related).

So I cleared.....all good but 5 min later....p1804 comes back. Cleared.....few min later both 1804 and 405. Basically I nursed it through the job....shutting down and clearing the codes half a dozen times in the last 20 min to get done

When this first happened a couple months ago I called dealer ....since it's literally only a couple months past warranty and only 640 hrs ....they didn't seem willing at all to help.

My generic code reader does give fuel pressures. Which are reading 20,000-23,000 pai when working hard. Bout right for a crd. But when it goes into "limp". Seems it caps it at 10,000. Which makes it feel like maybe a 10hp machine.

Anyone got any ideas? Or did I make a mistake buying a mahindra with a computer and EGR?
 
   / Mahindra 3550 codes: P1804 and P405 #2  
"Did I make a mistake buying a Mahindra with a computer and EGR?" Do you really have to ask?
 
   / Mahindra 3550 codes: P1804 and P405 #3  
Every color of tractor seems to have it's own problems. This is fuel related, so maybe a collapsed fuel line, or some impediment brought on due to the fuel cap issue.....?
 
   / Mahindra 3550 codes: P1804 and P405 #4  
What sensors or items would cause the reduction of fuel pressure or derate engine?

Faulty pressure sensor cause this?

Failing lift pump to main pump?

EPA component failing causing limp mode?

Not sure what components throw codes
 
   / Mahindra 3550 codes: P1804 and P405 #5  
So mahindra uses Bosch common rail diesel fuel injection. Is your scan tool compatible with that ? If the answer is anything other than ...Yes then those codes you pulled up are likely bogus. Many scanners even with the HD protocol are a no go.
 
   / Mahindra 3550 codes: P1804 and P405
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So mahindra uses Bosch common rail diesel fuel injection. Is your scan tool compatible with that ? If the answer is anything other than ...Yes then those codes you pulled up are likely bogus. Many scanners even with the HD protocol are a no go.
question.....not sure

I do know that when I completely unplug the EGR.....the p405 code is what gets triggered on my scan tool

I mowed today. About an hour with no issues at all.

Then these two codes come up. Clear them....then 15 min later they back and I'm in limp mode....

Clear and repeat 5 min later.

Then it gets to the point of every 2-3 min....

I did totally unhook (mechanically) the EGR motor. It has a plastic cover and I could see it trying but failing to open the EGR. Like the motor getting weak.

So I unbolted motor and just jet it sit there to see if it would cycle completely ....it does. So I figured weak motor and I'd give it a try with it unbolted. No go....we still have this issue

Might be time for a trip to the dealer. Cause this is frustrating trying to mow.

Don't understand how the tractor can run so flawlessly for an hour....then some programming or electrical gremlins basically makes it unusable. I'm about 99% certain it's nothing more than electrical/programming issue
 

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