Battery based vehicles of today and tomorrow pt 2

[DarkBlack]

I would knock it well down the list also if I was dumb enough as a reviewer to use the previous 2020 COVID peak pricing and substitute a fake $72,190 price for the 2024 MYP article specs which are actually from 2020.

That appears to be an 'oversight', maybe.

You have to click into a new page to get the current page and price.

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[sd455dan]

This has to be mostly driven by CAFE standards. If a person is able to plug in their truck, partially maintain the battery with the gas engine and manage 690 miles on a charge/fill then they can claim some high MPG I guess. I wonder how big the gas tank is to get this many miles. Let's say it's 24 gallons. Do you suppose they could claim almost 29 MPG in that case. It seems like RAM lawyers and accountants have about as much to do with this as the engineers.

I think it would be disingenuous to let the battery be fully charged and use that as the combined MPG number.

They would have to run the truck until it is forced into running the generator and start the test there as well to have a good idea of how it would perform in the opposite use cases.

in addition to be fair to ICE vehicles they need to add a cold EV test cycle Interior kept warm. 70 MPH below 0* F.

 

[DarkBlack]

Another view:

https://www.caranddriver.com/rankings/best-electric-suvs

 

[sd455dan]

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2024 Model Y page OK yes I see they post the numbers correctly there
I read article and it is the specs



Specifications under 2024 MY then they proceed to list the 2020 price and specs.

2020 Tesla Model Y Long Range

VEHICLE TYPE
front- and mid-motor, all-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 4-door wagon

PRICE AS TESTED
$57,190 (base price: $54,190)


PRICE AS TESTED
$72,190 (base price: $62,190)

POWERTRAIN
F: induction AC motor R: permanent-magnet synchronous AC motor
Combined Power (C/D est)
470 hp
CHASSIS
Suspension (F/R): control arms/multilink
Brakes (F/R): 14.0-in vented disc/13.2-in vented disc
Tires: Pirelli P Zero PZ4 Elect, F: 255/35R-21 98W TO R: 275/35R-21 103W TO

DIMENSIONS
Wheelbase: 113.8 in
Length: 187.0 in
Width: 75.6 in
Height: 63.9 in
Passenger volume: 106 ft3
Curb weight: 4439 lb

C/D TEST RESULTS
60 mph: 3.6 sec
100 mph: 9.1 sec
1/4 mile: 12.1 sec @ 113 mph
130 mph: 17.8 sec
150 mph: 29.5 sec
Results above omit 1-ft rollout of 0.3 sec.
Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 3.7 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 1.4 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 1.8 sec
Top speed (mfr's claim): 150 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 154 ft
Braking, 100–0 mph: 324 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.94 g

C/D FUEL ECONOMY
75-mph highway driving: 98 MPGe
Highway range: 230 miles

EPA FUEL ECONOMY
Combined/city/highway: 111/116/106 MPGe
Range: 291 miles

White Flag...

ps. weird CD got more miles range out of the Performance than the Long range.

 

[NoTrespassing]

I think it would be disingenuous to let the battery be fully charged and use that as the combined MPG number.

They would have to run the truck until it is forced into running the generator and start the test there as well to have a good idea of how it would perform in the opposite use cases.

in addition to be fair to ICE vehicles they need to add a cold EV test cycle Interior kept warm. 70 MPH below 0* F.

I agree, but, the "experts" in the US government making the rules may not have considered how innovative manufacturers can be when trying to evade mileage requirements. They will move the goal posts to fit their agenda after the fact.

 

[sd455dan]

I agree, but, the "experts" in the US government making the rules may not have considered how innovative manufacturers can be when trying to evade mileage requirements. They will move the goal posts to fit their agenda after the fact.

With the EPA lawsuits going forward, it will be interesting for sure.


April 18th:

https://www.reuters.com/legal/repub...epublican,agency exceeded its legal authority.

 

[fatjay]

Alright, I'm sold. The ocean I ordered is going to soon have a retrofit available called the Force-E, which will raise hte suspension, chunky tires, wider stance, fender flares, and skid plates.

 

[Grumpycat]

Fuel mix up reported at Burwell Pump and Pantry

I guess that was not a cheap mistake, but thankfully EV owners that charge at home were OK.

"Super Unleaded 87", that's a laugh!

Wouldn't it be just awful if someone got AC and DC mixed up at a public EV charger?

 

[sd455dan]

Interesting and concerning with the reddit posts today

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fisker/comments/1caga5u

Fisker (FSR) Appoints Michael Healy as Chief Restructuring Officer

On April 21, 2024, the Board appointed Michael Healy as Chief Restructuring Officer of Fisker (OTC: FSRN). Mr. Healy is a Senior Managing Director of FTI Consulting, Inc. (FTI), a management...

www.streetinsider.com

 

[Grumpycat]

New fuel in the United States: $85 million investment and the end of diesel - ECONews

Wow another End of Diesel solution?

Be sure to tune in next week for a $100 solid state 100 kWh battery which only weighs 100 pounds and charges 0-100% in 60 seconds!