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What is the max. length round you can put through it?

I bounce back and forth like a ping pong ball on this issue. As much as I like the idea of a tractor mounted unit, I can't help thinking it would be nice to be able to use it without the tractor if I want. Also, seems it would be easier to sell a stand alone unit when the time comes for the same reason.

By the time I decide, I won't need one anymore....

What is the max. length round you can put through it?

I bounce back and forth like a ping pong ball on this issue. As much as I like the idea of a tractor mounted unit, I can't help thinking it would be nice to be able to use it without the tractor if I want. Also, seems it would be easier to sell a stand alone unit when the time comes for the same reason.

By the time I decide, I won't need one anymore....
19 inches. Again, it wouldn't work for everyone but I have a stove that takes 16 inch wood. Unfortunately I don't know of an available small 3 point splitter now.
 
   / Tractors and wood! Show your pics #24,152  
If you go with a PTO pump, definitely get a 2 stage unit.
I've never even seen a 2 stage pump made to fit a tractor PTO. I had no idea they existed. For most applications, a 2 stage pump would not be desirable: Imagine your back working fast until it got under load, and only then slowing down - nudging the swing cylinder into precise position would be tough.

As @CalG noted, you don't really need 2 stages if you buy a large enough pump. There are a number of 16-20 GPM pumps out there.

Most pumps seem to recommend a tank at least as big as the GPM rating. (Though my AmercianCLS log splitter has a 16 GPM pump, and I seriously doubt the tank is 16 gallons. I'll have to measure and calculate one of these days.)
 
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I've never even seen a 2 stage pump made to fit a tractor PTO. I had no idea they existed. For most applications, a 2 stage pump would not be desirable: Imagine your back working fast until it got under load, and only then slowing down - nudging the swing cylinder into precise position would be tough.

As @CalG noted, you don't really need 2 stages if you buy a large enough pump. There are a number of 16-20 GPM pumps out there.

Most pumps seem to recommend a tank at least as big as the GPM rating. (Though my AmercianCLS log splitter has a 16 GPM pump, and I seriously doubt the tank is 16 gallons. I'll have to measure and calculate one of these days.)
Here in Portugal, it's very common to use 2 stage PTO pumps on splitters, typically above 20 or 25 Tons.

Essentially it's just a tandem pump mounted to a speed increaser. It's an high displacement gear pump and a small displacement gear pump that connects to a standalone high/low valve. A PTO shaft just connects the tractor to the splitter and it's done.

Some even have 3 pumps, being the third one used for the lift table. And just about 90% of them are foot operated.

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How do you set a stop on the return stroke?

That has been a gating issue on "one man" output with my present splitter.

I put a "stop block" on the splitter rail, but it didn't last long. Hard wood, maybe I need to machine machine up a proper clamping stop,

I put an adjustable return stop on my 22 ton splitter. It has and automatic detent valve that cut out when the ram was full back with a 26" opening for a round. My first attempt to make it stop at 18" was to bolt a plate across the beam for the wedge to hit on the return stroke but the detent release pressure was so high that it tore out the bolt holes on the back of the wedge. At that time I was just learning to weld so I made a project out of making an adjustable stop.


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Still using it to this day. Saves a little time on each split which adds up and frees up both hands to handle the wood during the return stroke.

gg
 
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I put an adjustable return stop on my 22 ton splitter. It has and automatic detent valve that cut out when the ram was full back with a 26" opening for a round. My first attempt to make it stop at 18" was to bolt a plate across the beam for the wedge to hit on the return stroke but the detent release pressure was so high that it tore out the bolt holes on the back of the wedge. At that time I was just learning to weld so I made a project out of making an adjustable stop.


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Still using it to this day. Saves a little time on each split which adds up and frees up both hands to handle the wood during the return stroke.

gg
Just an anecdote on "splitter efficiency".

When my youngest son was in high school, he broke his leg playing fall sports. Being in a cast and on crutches he was not as much help as he would normally be working up fuel wood. But boy, could he keep that splitter ram at the ready. No matter what size piece I would pick from the pile of rounds, he was ready!

Great fun!
 
   / Tractors and wood! Show your pics #24,156  
Just an anecdote on "splitter efficiency".

When my youngest son was in high school, he broke his leg playing fall sports. Being in a cast and on crutches he was not as much help as he would normally be working up fuel wood. But boy, could he keep that splitter ram at the ready. No matter what size piece I would pick from the pile of rounds, he was ready!

Great fun!
My wife runs the valve lever when I split wood. Like you say, it can be a fast way of splitting. She also brushes away debris by the time I can get another round up there. After we burn through a tank of fuel, it surly is break time.
 
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I took in a load of logs to mill for a guy, here's one of them headed for the BSM,

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It made some NICE lumber, until I found this,

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After a little chainsaw work, it was time to change out the band and move on.

SR
 
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I took in a load of logs to mill for a guy, here's one of them headed for the BSM,

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It made some NICE lumber, until I found this,

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After a little chainsaw work, it was time to change out the band and move on.

SR
With that grain pattern, and embedded iron, that piece would make a great conversation piece!
 
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Spent some quality time with the chipper yesterday cleaning up debris from the recent dead elm tree removal project.
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NOTE: The author in NO WAY endorses operating tractors with ROPS in lowered position, even when you are not actually ON the machine, it is stationary, parking brake set and all attachments are lowered to the ground.
 
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I took in a load of logs to mill for a guy, here's one of them headed for the BSM,

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It made some NICE lumber, until I found this,

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After a little chainsaw work, it was time to change out the band and move on.

SR
I've heard of the staining which iron causes but this is the first time I've seen what it looked like.
Too bad that you can't see it until you get the log apart.
 

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