Battery based vehicles of today and tomorrow pt 2

[DarkBlack]

I went Model Y because it was a few grand less than the RAV4 plug in hybrid.

….So you really wanted a RAV4, but went with a Tesla because it’s cheaper?
Pricing I see shows the Tesla over $48k, and the RAV4 prime AWD at $44k

Trying to follow your story, since yesterday you said you don’t mind paying Tesla over $2k a year for a self driving subscription

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

War is hell for both sides. Think of how this factor is hasting the ICE death spiral. I went Model Y because it was a few grand less than the RAV4 plug in hybrid.

Well, because the government made it so by paying part of that bill. Right?

 

[tradosaurus]

….So you really wanted a RAV4, but went with a Tesla because it’s cheaper?
Pricing I see shows the Tesla over $48k, and the RAV4 prime AWD at $44k

Trying to follow your story, since yesterday you said you don’t mind paying Tesla over $2k a year for a self driving subscription

Don't know when Gale bought his Tesla but I looked at the RAV4 Prime top trim model and it was pricing out at about $54K about 1-1/2 yrs ago. I bought my Tesla Y back in Sept of 2023 for $50K out the door (before the tax incentive)
Also I believe last year Tesla qualified for tax credit while Toyota didn't.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Well, because the government made it so by paying part of that bill. Right?

@tradosaurus has good data. The possible $7500 tax recovery was not key to my 14 Jan 2023 buying decision because getting the $7500 was in serious question on 14 Jan 2023. My blue 2" receiver options made my payment to Tesla $53900.

While 14 months later I haven't seen the $7500 yet but I have enjoyed the added FSD safety for over a year now.

I purchased the Model Y to get FSD and get my son off my case to order a Model Y.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

I guess I'm looking at the RAV4 plug in hybrid, which MSRPs at $44k

 

[Gale Hawkins]

I guess I'm looking at the RAV4 plug in hybrid, which MSRPs at $44k

OK I was benchmarking again the 2023 Tesla Model Y Dual Motor Long Range for access to FSD.

 

[shooterdon]

I purchased the Model Y to get FSD and get my son off my case to order a Model Y.

I would not care what my son desired. Man, we are so different. And like I stated in my other post, for what you pay for FSD, I can buy fuel for a year.

This is why "some" people lauding EVs get a lot of push back. Their priorities do not mesh with what most people want. It results in their conclusions being questioned.

For me, $2400/year for FSD and what my son thinks is not germane to purchasing a vehicle. In fact, I will likely do the opposite of what he thinks. He has gone woke and it has affected his common sense. But that is another story...

 

[Gale Hawkins]

https://www.carscoops.com/2024/03/y...d-a-ford-mustang-mach-e-at-an-18500-discount/

This article just popped up.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

$2400/yr is our annual fuel cost for two vehicles

 

[tradosaurus]

I guess I'm looking at the RAV4 plug in hybrid, which MSRPs at $44k

Bottom trim level with no other options. Nice try though.
To get something equivalent to what I have in the Y, the Toyota website comes to $52,440.
My Y without tax incentives was $50K.
My son owns the Rav 4 Prime hybrid and it is nice but my Y is better in almost every metric.