Electric vehicles during a disaster

[Jstpssng]

Another hour each way? Something's wrong with the math there...

200 miles at 65 mph = 3.1 hours.
200 miles at 70 mph = 2.7 hours = 4/10 of an hour faster = 24 minutes.
200 miles at 80 mph = 2.5 hours = 6/10 of an hour faster = 36 minutes.

If your traveling 70-80, you're probably saving half an hour at best.

You're right. I meant an hour round trip.

 

[grsthegreat]

Back in the mid '80s I worked with a college student from Missoula. He used to tell about the violation if you got caught speeding on the highway out there... a dollar fine for "Squandering a natural resource." I don't know if it's true or not but it sure makes a good story.

About twice a month I travel 200 miles each way to visit my mother. About half of that time is on the interstate, travelling at 70-80 mph. I have calculated the savings vs driving at 65 mph; at 5$/gallon I would save about 7 dollars, but it would take another hour each way. My time is worth more than 7$/hour.

Well, i lived in montana in the 1980’s. There was no daytime speed limit, only night time limits. Cops would pass me as my bronco was doing 85.

 

[MossRoad]

You're right. I meant an hour round trip.

Okey dokey. I thought maybe you had an interesting highway system over there. You know. Uphill both ways in winter with one shoe.

 

[MossRoad]

Well, i lived in montana in the 1980’s. There was no daytime speed limit, only night time limits. Cops would pass me as my bronco was doing 85.

Well, I lived in Indiana in the1980's.... nothing much more to say about that.

Lotta corn.

 

[grsthegreat]

Thats nothing… nothing is scarier than a 1978 bronco doing 85. Not sure why it didnt fall apart.

 

[Torvy]

No it's not and you are wrong. On any Intra or Interstate, the minimum posted speed is 45 mph. Obviously, you have tunnel vision and don't observe the signage. Not my issue though. Contrary to your opinion, they all have a minimum 45 mph speed. Just not a top speed. I'm done with you.

Hubris does not look good on you. Take a step back and open yourself to learning new info.

Here's an example from Florida...

"The minimum speed limit on all highways that comprise a part of the National System of Interstate and Defense Highways and have not fewer than four lanes is 40 miles per hour, except that when the posted speed limit is 70 miles per hour, the minimum speed limit is 50 miles per hour.".

See section 2, below.

Chapter 316 Section 183 - 2022 Florida Statutes

m.flsenate.gov

 

[MossRoad]

I wonder if they have EV chargers at Indiana Beach?

 

[Grumpycat]

That is a big if. I've read a few articles where they tested one towing a heavy trailer. It does the same thing to the EV that is does to the ICE trucks. It greatly increases fuel consumption. With an ICE you just refuel. With an EV you are lucky to find a charging station.

With a non-Tesla "you are lucky to find a charging station". This is because Ford and others are expecting handouts. Expecting someone else to build charging stations. There is currently 1586 Supercharger sites in the USA. Most have 8 charging bays, most new have 16.

Long ago Tesla offered an olive branch to other manufacturers: Use our Superchargers under equal terms. Those terms included sharing of costs and how the EV must be able to charge as fast as a Tesla and go a similar distance. This stands to reason because one does not want Nissan LEAFs sitting twice as long for half the range of a Tesla, and even then not being able to drive 100-125 miles to the next Supercharger. That I know one very small manufacturer accepted Tesla's offer but is not yet in production.

Then it might be in use or you might have to sit there for 30 minutes or longer. That is not going to work. I live in Texas and everywhere I drive is usually at least 20 to 30 minutes each way. I would be so stressed out if I could not easily refuel. I am hoping to get a new truck in the next few years before the government says I have to buy an EV. I agree that we should be using hybrids more.

Then why do you not have a hybrid right now? You want someone to give it to you?

An EV starts from home with a full charge (or as full as you desire) every morning. With 200-250 miles in the battery you will have no trouble going several "30 minutes each way" each day. Then you will spend 15 seconds connecting the EVSE umbilical at night, another totally wasted 15 seconds unplugging the next morning.

40+ years ago attending university 110 miles from home I often wondered about what it would take to drive the route with an electric car. As an engineering student I did math and realized it wasn't going to happen with 12 volt lead-acid batteries. Now I have driven that same route round trip on one charge in an EV.

 

[CobyRupert]

Irony: Relying on electricity to operate gas pumps is the same as needing a gas generator to charge your EV.

 

[Grumpycat]

That 2nd meme was written by an imbecile. The Prius already has a gas engine and a 10 gallon gas tank...that will take it 400-600 miles depending on weather and such.

My Prius had an 11.9 gallon gas tank.