Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[Fuddy1952]

My wife & I (50 yr. together this year) much prefer stock. Two examples: both the BelAir & Nova her Mom bought new. Stock, except a few minor things that can be changed back.
Resto-mods we don't like. If an old car is in bad condition is different than ruining an old original. One could argue the "plug-n-play" EV is better, but knowing how to keep old cars running is much different. It's analogous to a mechanical 19th century pendulum clock and an atomic clock. The atomic clock accuracy is incredible, while antique requires winding, maintenance, bearings and parts wear out and break, etc. The problem is the migration away from KNOWING HOW the mechanical thing works, ability to keep it running, how to fabricate, etc.
The Amish live in the past, still working with horses. Steam powered excursion trains are still running thanks to knowledge handed down.
The bottom line is everything has It's purpose. Everything will be fine as long as people have choices. Never assume new is always better, I've always said today's new and improved is tomorrow's junk.

 

[airbiscuit]

You don't see many smog choked classics from the mid 70s at classic car shows

 

[Agvg]

Well, you can fabricate to EVs to, openhardware and software are available to run Leaf engines, probably to Tesla to.

 

[Fuddy1952]

You don't see many smog choked classics from the mid 70s at classic car shows

Right. We don't have those either. We don't go to car shows either.

 

[Root Cause]

The big transportation failure on I-95 should give good feedback on how EVs do stuck in the snow for 27 hours on the freeway. There were apparently a lot of IC vehicles abandoned on the highway. That's a pretty low bar for an EV to get over.

We seem to be going both forward and backward these last couple of years.
It would be interesting to know how heaters work or if they would last long if stuck on the highway.
If this is a coming trend, then I guess a urinal and latte machine should become options.

With that, can you get a dui if the car is self driving?

 

[Agvg]

And young car enthusiasts today are often into mechanical, electric, electronic and programming. Have seen projects to make your own engine controller for a VW TDI engines to use them as stationary engines, using a Arduino as brain, very interesting to see people connect all the engine hardware to such a divice and do the research and programming.

 

[Grumpycat]

I guess it is boo hoo hoo after nine hours, then it's call a tow truck or carry a generator with extra gas.

Yup! Call the tow truck after burning 12% of a "tank" of electrons. Simply unacceptable. Math is so hard.

 

[Grumpycat]

I dont understand? are you saying the people who are running out of fuel etc are all in electric cars?

Yes, he is pretending only EVs run out of fuel stalled in traffic.

At 1 kWh per hour with a 60 kWh battery, one would be in very good shape stalled in traffic with a Tesla Model Y Long Range.

The Long Range may be more than 60 kWh. The Standard Range is in the 50's, Tesla no longer differentiates models by the numeric battery capacity.

 

[Menagerie-Manor]

The big transportation failure on I-95 should give good feedback on how EVs do stuck in the snow for 27 hours on the freeway. There were apparently a lot of IC vehicles abandoned on the highway. That's a pretty low bar for an EV to get over.

In my view the IC vehicles raised the bar for EV's since numerous IC owners stated they were able to start their vehicles regularly to provide heat in the sub 20 deg temps. Per some research at those temps the EV batteries may go 10 hours with battery performance diminishing as it gets colder.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

The VA snowstorm traffic jam on Sunday/Monday highlights why the downside of EVs havent been thoroughly analyzed.
Hundreds of EV cars would die and leave motorists stranded in the cold for hours, even days. Could be a serious, dangerous problem.

Yeah... We better not do it then. I'll let Mr. Musk know right away...