How long before Compact Diesels are obsolete?

   / How long before Compact Diesels are obsolete? #321  
The first step of a 10 Step Program is admitting you have a problem. How long will Wyoming cling to a dying industry (dirty coal)? They could pivot to renewables (especially wind energy) and the knowledge economy (they have robust broadband), but that would mean abandoning their Coal Masters.

Denial is the first stage of grief.

COAL IS A DYING INDUSTRY
You do know that 60% of the electricity Wisconsin uses is derived from coal, right


Over 60 percent of Wisconsin's electricity is generated from coal. The state receives about 20 percent of its electricity from its two nuclear power plants, while natural gas provides about nine percent of the state's electricity generation.
 
   / How long before Compact Diesels are obsolete? #322  
While you're at it, try to find an article of an Amazon data center in Wyoming. Nobody even knew what this giant building being built was for. No signs out front, no fanfare, nothing. It's like Amazon wants to keep it's dirty little secret of how it keeps it shopping site and all the other business powered by AWS up with never an outage. Imagine if Amazon put this in Texas. They seeked out a place with stable energy and lots of fiber lines. They found it.



Just because it's not in internet land, doesn't mean it's out there.
Try to find the exact locations of any AWS properties. They don't make it readily available.
 
   / How long before Compact Diesels are obsolete? #323  
Try to find the exact locations of any AWS properties. They don't make it readily available.
That’s weird, when they built the center out here, it was advertised a lot. No hiding involved. Maybe there gun shy after AOC raised such a fuss about one in New York.
 
   / How long before Compact Diesels are obsolete? #324  
You do know that 60% of the electricity Wisconsin uses is derived from coal, right


Over 60 percent of Wisconsin's electricity is generated from coal. The state receives about 20 percent of its electricity from its two nuclear power plants, while natural gas provides about nine percent of the state's electricity generation.
Indiana is a high coal usage state as well. About 100 or so miles southwest of us is one of the most polluting coal plants in the country in Wheatfield, In. It was scheduled to start closing in 2023, but they've moved it up to this year.
 
   / How long before Compact Diesels are obsolete? #325  
You do know that 60% of the electricity Wisconsin uses is derived from coal, right


Over 60 percent of Wisconsin's electricity is generated from coal. The state receives about 20 percent of its electricity from its two nuclear power plants, while natural gas provides about nine percent of the state's electricity generation.
Yep - Wisconsin has been behind the curve on weaning itself from coal. Minnesota has been much better at it, but Wisconsin finally got the memo.

Alliant Energy Will Shut Down Its Last Coal Plant In Wisconsin​

Utility's Coal-Fired Facility In Columbia County To Close By End Of 2024
By Danielle Kaeding WPR
Published:
  • Tuesday, February 2, 2021, 9:35am
 
   / How long before Compact Diesels are obsolete? #326  
What will replace it. No one is building new nuclear plants.
 
   / How long before Compact Diesels are obsolete? #327  
The first step of a 10 Step Program is admitting you have a problem. How long will Wyoming cling to a dying industry (dirty coal)? They could pivot to renewables (especially wind energy) and the knowledge economy (they have robust broadband), but that would mean abandoning their Coal Masters.

Denial is the first stage of grief.

COAL IS A DYING INDUSTRY
Not really. China is buying and burning more coal from us, everyday. Got a buddy in Pa and his company exports 100% of it's mined coal to China. Same thing in Healy, Alaska, the largest open pit coal mine in Alaska exports almost all it's coal to China. Even has a dedicated railroad to carry it to the coast where it's loaded on ships.

We try to get green and get off fossil fuel and China buys and burns it and is burying us in the process.

Going green has it's price I'd day.
 
   / How long before Compact Diesels are obsolete? #328  
Multiple times a day, every single day of the week, we have 5 mile long trains hauling coal and heading east from here.

Concurrently, multiple times a day, every single day of the week, we have 5 mile long trains hauling EMPTY coal cars back to the west of here.

Someone "hasn't gotten the memo" yet. You guys (east of us) are still burning a hellofalotta coal.

Another "inconvenient truth" for you.
 
   / How long before Compact Diesels are obsolete? #329  
Inconvenient truths

Coal mining in the United States​

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Total US coal production graph

Total US coal production, 1870–2018

Coal mining in the United States is an industry in transition. Production in 2017 was down 33% from the peak production of 1,162.7 million short tons (1,055 million metric tons) in 2006. Employment of 50,000 coal miners is down from a peak of 883,000 in 1923.[1] Generation of electricity is the largest user of coal, being used to produce 50% of electric power in 2005 and 27% in 2018.[2] The U.S. is a net exporter of coal. U.S. coal exports, for which Europe is the largest customer, peaked in 2012.[3] In 2015, the U.S. exported 7.0 percent of mined coal.[4]

Coal remains an important factor in the 25 states in which it is mined.[citation needed] According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA), in 2015, Wyoming, West Virginia, Kentucky, Illinois, and Pennsylvania produced about 639 million short tons (580 million metric tons) representing 71% of total U.S. coal production in the United States.[5]

In 2015, four publicly traded US coal companies filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, including Patriot Coal Corporation, Walter Energy, and the fourth-largest Alpha Natural Resources. By January 2016, more than 25% of coal production was in bankruptcy in the United States[6] including the top two producers Peabody Energy[7][8] and Arch Coal.[6][9] When Arch Coal filed for bankruptcy protection, the price of coal had dropped 50% since 2011[10] and it was $4.5 billion in debt.[6][10] On October 5, 2016, Arch Coal emerged from Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.[11] In October 2018, Westmoreland Coal Company filed for bankruptcy protection.[12][13][14] On May 10, 2019, the third largest U.S. coal company by production, Cloud Peak Energy, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.[15] On October 29, 2019 Murray Energy filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.

............................. Not the kind of news that attracts capital or investors.
 

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