Tractors and wood! Show your pics

[hunt4570]

So is that basically storage under that new roof?? Nice building BTW..

 

[Loaderman22]

Whats wrong with tar paper, always use to be used what changed?

Absolutely nothing is wrong with tar paper, it should be there, it's the nailing directly to it, newer growth cedar is a lot softer than the old stuff, so it absorbs water and if not allowed to dry, it breaks down, warps, curls, cracks, etc faster. So the new "recommendation" is to put a breathing layer between tar paper and the cedar, for shakes on walls also. This breathing layer can be furring strips, or a special drainage membrane like Cedar Breather. I'm not saying it has to be done, just that it's different to see it installed directly. But for us it's a lot harder to replace them since we don't have a shingle mill!

 

[hunt4570]

Absolutely nothing is wrong with tar paper, it should be there, it's the nailing directly to it, newer growth cedar is a lot softer than the old stuff, so it absorbs water and if not allowed to dry, it breaks down, warps, curls, cracks, etc faster. So the new "recommendation" is to put a breathing layer between tar paper and the cedar, for shakes on walls also. This breathing layer can be furring strips, or a special drainage membrane like Cedar Breather. I'm not saying it has to be done, just that it's different to see it installed directly. But for us it's a lot harder to replace them since we don't have a shingle mill!

Agreed.. And I dont have a shingle mill either.. or cedar trees for that matter...

 

[Jstpssng]

Yeah, those round blade jobs scare me to death!! I'm sure I would lose an appendage eventually. Same with that shingle cutter!!

Watching that shingle saw makes me think of the "Black Knight" of Monty Python fame... because that's what I would end up looking like.

 

[hunt4570]

Watching that shingle saw makes me think of the "Black Knight" of Monty Python fame... because that's what I would end up looking like.

:thumbsup:

 

[Oldpath05]

I was thinking the same about a "drainage" layer in there so the shingles could dry out..

On 19" shakes to deal with moisture son lays them with 1/4" gap with 6" exposer, he likes tarpaper because it's the old fashion way. If it was me I wouldn't even bother with tarpaper with shakes or I'd just put down metal roofing and done in 2 hours but he hates that idea.

 

[Oldpath05]

Agreed.. And I dont have a shingle mill either.. or cedar trees for that matter...

You can make shingle out of any soft wood. I used pine on my house, the north end is still pine after 40 years, in 2012 I sanded it and repainted them. In 2011 my wife had my son do the front with new cedar shingles, he took the pine off and they was like new on back side, only painted once when put on, SYP should work better because they dont stain like white pine.

I have hemlock shingles on my garage walls, yeah they cracked some but it's just a garage. I expect they last 50 years easy if not repainted.
From 2014 spring...

 

[Oldpath05]

Absolutely nothing is wrong with tar paper, it should be there, it's the nailing directly to it, newer growth cedar is a lot softer than the old stuff, so it absorbs water and if not allowed to dry, it breaks down, warps, curls, cracks, etc faster. So the new "recommendation" is to put a breathing layer between tar paper and the cedar, for shakes on walls also. This breathing layer can be furring strips, or a special drainage membrane like Cedar Breather. I'm not saying it has to be done, just that it's different to see it installed directly. But for us it's a lot harder to replace them since we don't have a shingle mill!

I'm always skeptical of the word NEW. The old recommendation is, lay on tarpaper, nail directly to tarpaper, IF IF IF water gets on tarpaper, the tar on tarpaper leaches into the so-called newer growth softer cedar shakes, then after 5 years of tar leaching into the so-called softer newer growth cedar shakes the so-called softer newer growth cedar shakes will absorb all that leached tar and last 50 years because of all the tar that has leached into so-called softer newer growth cedar shakes.......

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Another nice day here, so me and a friend of mine, decided to skid out a load of oak and hard maple today,

This is where we were getting the logs, mostly firewood but a few saw logs too,

And this is the biggest/heaviest log of the day,

So, I skidded it out of the woods,

and managed to get it loaded on the trailer,

Here's the load, ready to chain down and take home!

SR

 

[Jstpssng]

^^^^
That's a load!!!!