Backhoe Mahindra owners. Little help here please.

   / Mahindra owners. Little help here please. #131  
This is where 1 phone call to Gas would make a big difference in the way he feels and acts. Communication on Mahindra’s part would make the difference. They may be doing something behind the scene but if he doesn’t know, how is he supposed to feel. Having said that I would hold off a little longer also, cause when a lawyer gets involved nobody wins.
 
   / Mahindra owners. Little help here please. #132  
Not sure that I want to continue to be involved in this, but here goes. Gasifier, there are a number of well meaning people on here that are trying to help you out. You would likely do well to listen to them. Dave is a respected member of this forum and a customer advocate. I can personally attest to the assistance that he gave to me when I was going through issues with my 3550.

It seems like you continue to harp on lost time. It's the first thing you said you mentioned when talking to the rep - even though lost time is not covered by warranty. This gives me the impression that this was a hostile interaction at the beginning, and it's possible that your approach and expectations have made both the dealer and the rep less likely to want to work with you. If instead you worried about getting the machine fixed, and concentrated on that - I think you'd be in a better spot. :2cents:

As far as the actual issue goes - are you saying that the use of the transmission does not cause a loss of power when the check engine light is illuminated? Frankly, I don't believe that. You continually harp on the loss of hydraulic power which I think is misleading. I think that the use of hydraulics are one mechanism by which the engine can be loaded, but the transmission is another method. If I'm wrong, and you can load the transmission and maintain full engine power, then please correct me. If not - then the issue is quite likely a drop in rail pressure for one reason or another. It's a bit concerning to me that they are throwing parts at it - instead of a proper diagnosis. Fuel rail issues and the methods of diagnosis have been well understood by diesel truck enthusiasts for a long time - there's a lot of information out there.

Since the issue comes up only after working for a bit, that leads me to believe that it resets itself. Can it be reset to full power by simply shutting the tractor off and restarting? If not, what has been the required fix? Do you have to let it cool off? Does it require a trip to the dealer?

It's a warranty issue, why should the customer have to go out of his way to help the dealer fix the tractor? As far as lost time is concerned, it would be a huge issue to me if I were a customer purchasing a brand new tractor and implements. The snow is about to fly and if my tractor doesn't run we don't get out of the property, period. That's a big deal. I'd be in touch with a lawyer.

Kevin
 
   / Mahindra owners. Little help here please. #133  
This is where 1 phone call to Gas would make a big difference in the way he feels and acts. Communication on Mahindra痴 part would make the difference. They may be doing something behind the scene but if he doesn稚 know, how is he supposed to feel. Having said that I would hold off a little longer also, cause when a lawyer gets involved nobody wins.

Absolutely correct. And I have seen this issue before, where Mahindra is working at the corporate office, working with the engineers in the background and such, and yet are slow to contact the dealer or customer. Meanwhile, the customer/dealer feels a bit abandoned while there is serious work towards resolution in the back ground. As a dealer, I'd insist on a plan of action and timeframe.

If they have no timeframe, then I go to the "unsolvable problem" scenario and I'd insist that we slip a new tractor into the package. Customer keeps his loader, backhoe, heck even his tires and seat if they wish, just put a new tractor under the customer. On the few buy backs that I have handled without OEM help over the years, that is what we have done. Then we fix the issue - because given some time all problems with tractors are solvable. Then test the tractor, perhaps use the tractor for a month or two as a yard tractor to make sure it is good. Then sell it with warranty. Overall there is a loss of profit, maybe all the profit, but nearly a breakeven when all is said and done, and that is part of the cost of doing business. And the customer still likes you and tells his neighbors good things.

Gasifier, if it is all as you say and there is not another side of this story, then I am with you on this. I'd want a time frame, a good solid plan or I'd want another tractor. I think my opinion, for what it is worth, is fair to both Mahindra and the customer. Call the dealer and tell them you need a call from Mahindra today. Not tomorrow.

Mahindra if you are reading this, communicate with the customer. I know you care about your customers, but they can't tell if you are not talking to them.
 
   / Mahindra owners. Little help here please. #134  
Absolutely correct. And I have seen this issue before, where Mahindra is working at the corporate office, working with the engineers in the background and such, and yet are slow to contact the dealer or customer. Meanwhile, the customer/dealer feels a bit abandoned while there is serious work towards resolution in the back ground. As a dealer, I'd insist on a plan of action and timeframe.

If they have no timeframe, then I go to the "unsolvable problem" scenario and I'd insist that we slip a new tractor into the package. Customer keeps his loader, backhoe, heck even his tires and seat if they wish, just put a new tractor under the customer. On the few buy backs that I have handled without OEM help over the years, that is what we have done. Then we fix the issue - because given some time all problems with tractors are solvable. Then test the tractor, perhaps use the tractor for a month or two as a yard tractor to make sure it is good. Then sell it with warranty. Overall there is a loss of profit, maybe all the profit, but nearly a breakeven when all is said and done, and that is part of the cost of doing business. And the customer still likes you and tells his neighbors good things.

Gasifier, if it is all as you say and there is not another side of this story, then I am with you on this. I'd want a time frame, a good solid plan or I'd want another tractor. I think my opinion, for what it is worth, is fair to both Mahindra and the customer. Call the dealer and tell them you need a call from Mahindra today. Not tomorrow.

Mahindra if you are reading this, communicate with the customer. I know you care about your customers, but they can't tell if you are not talking to them.

Well said!
Unfortunately, it appears that Mahindra corporate just does not take this issue seriously.
 
   / Mahindra owners. Little help here please. #135  
Well said!
Unfortunately, it appears that Mahindra corporate just does not take this issue seriously.

That is the impression people can get with a lack of communication, but I suspect they care deeply and are working on this.
 
   / Mahindra owners. Little help here please. #136  
......we fix the issue - because given some time all problems with tractors are solvable.

Mahindra if you are reading this, communicate with the customer. I know you care about your customers, but they can't tell if you are not talking to them.

Dave you seem like a very level headed guy and :thumbsup: to you, your "take" on this, and your dealership!
 
   / Mahindra owners. Little help here please. #137  
I'm in the market for a tractor and was thinking Mahindra..
Sounds like Mahindra is not customer friendly.
Maybe I need to rethink and leave Mahindra out of the line up
 
   / Mahindra owners. Little help here please. #138  
That is the impression people can get with a lack of communication, but I suspect they care deeply and are working on this.

How much "working on" from Mahindra, should the OP be expected to wait for?
Seems to me, if "they care deeply", they would have resolved the OP's tractor problem, or replaced the OP's tractor by now.
Mahindra should take a few lessons from Amazon!
 
   / Mahindra owners. Little help here please. #139  
How much "working on" from Mahindra, should the OP be expected to wait for?
Seems to me, if "they care deeply", they would have resolved the OP's tractor problem, or replaced the OP's tractor by now.
Mahindra should take a few lessons from Amazon!

Yeah, How long is a customer expected to put up with something like this ? When is enough, enough ?
 
   / Mahindra owners. Little help here please. #140  
Wow. Just read all 14 page of this thread. If everything is on the up and up with what you've said, I sure feel for you. The only reason I buy new is so I don't have to work on something. Having a tractor made in India, I can vouch for lack of quality control. I know Mahindra sells a ton of tractors with a lot of happy owners, but this about seals the deal on me ever owning one. Wish you the best. Hope Mahindra steps up and works it out.
 

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