Just chaps my *** .

[kevin37b]

We went to Bloomington Il grocery shopping today . While there very dense fog came in . Amazes me the number of morons running up and down the road with not any lights on . My wife hates the interstate but I told her get on , I am not riding home on 2 lane 150 . Is that how bad people reason these days ?

 

[mjw357]

Yup, these are the 'special' people that automatic headlights/DRL's were created for. We have a 'wiper' law here in Ohio, if you are driving and need your windshield wipers, you are required to have your headlights on. But it is a secondary offense, so it has no real teeth. Make all the laws you want, but you can't outlaw stupid.

 

[prichard]

Equally dangerous is the idiots with 4 way flashers on in the fog. Blinds anyone near them.

 

[aczlan]

It's especially fun when they are driving a silver or white car (in whiteout or intermittent whiteout conditions) without lights.

Aaron Z

 

[BrokeFarmerJohn]

Yup, these are the 'special' people that automatic headlights/DRL's were created for. We have a 'wiper' law here in Ohio, if you are driving and need your windshield wipers, you are required to have your headlights on. But it is a secondary offense, so it has no real teeth. Make all the laws you want, but you can't outlaw stupid.

I have known about this law for a long time but have never heard of anyone getting a ticket for it, I did get pulled over for having a marker light out on my car because a cop almost pulled out in front of me, it was dusk and I was just running with markers, normally I do run with headlights but anyway, I passed a police officer which pulled me over, admitted he almost pulled out in front of me but just saw my passenger side marker, he told me to run with headlights on and get the marker fixed.

It was a perfectly clear summers day at sundown, I could have used headlights, prob should have but felt markers were sufficient at the time.

As far as 4 way flashers go, It really pisses me off when people run 20-30mph Under the speed limit on the Highway in the left lane, people around here do it a lot. And usually in a rain storm at night, so the flashers are super bright and reflective. During a snow storm it's no bother, heavy fog I would prefer it if you run slow but not a ordinary rainstorm with good visibility even at night.

 

[bcp]

 

[PJSprog]

I occasionally attempt to count the number of numbskulls driving around in the rain with no lights on. No headlights. No marker lights. Nothing. I drive a little over 80 miles round trip to get to and from work, and most of it is I-70 and/or I-64. The number of offending drivers is astounding. I almost always lose track before I even get to Missouri, where it gets even worse. And, they are never the ones driving with traffic; they're either passing everyone at light speed, or peddling along at 35mph. We have the wiper rule here in Missouri and Illinois, too, but like John I've never heard of anyone actually being cited for it.

 

[CobyRupert]

You're asking people to think from another person's perspective.

(i.e. so THEY can see you, not so YOU can see better).

Many people are incapable of this no matter how many laws you pass.

If you've ever visited TBN's political forum you know many people are capable of only one perspective. It's interesting how we tend to divide people into groups, liberal/conservative, rich/poor, educated/uneducated, etc...but I see on of the biggest differences in people is "empathy". People have it or they don't.
(the same as "curiosity", but that's a different discussion...)

 

[tcartwri]

We've had daylight running lights here for at least 20 years.... and I'm amazed how many people go out of their way to disable them.

 

[dickfoster]

We've had daylight running lights here for at least 20 years.... and I'm amazed how many people go out of their way to disable them.

It's pretty obvious that many people go out of their way to be stupid. Judging from their actions some seem to work very hard at it.

 

[George2615]

Equally dangerous is the idiots with 4 way flashers on in the fog. Blinds anyone near them.

Driving with 4 ways on as in your example comes under #3 here. During extreme weather conditions such as snowy whiteouts or fog it is much easier to see a vehicle you are approaching if they have them on. This may not be legal in some states. You probably don't have too many whiteout conditions but we have far more snowy whiteout conditions than fog and I appreciate people using them to make them more visible at a further distance. Also, it lets me know they are driving slower than the speed limit such as in example #1. I may feel safe driving on the interstate in a white out at 45 MPH but the guy in front of me may only feel safe driving at 25 MPH. Without him having 4 ways on I'd assume he was doing 45 and be on top of him in no time. In some states it is the law if going under 45 MPH on an interstate.

1. A semi merging onto the freeway, with a very heavy load, and it is going to take some time to get up to the proper speed so the hazard flashers are used to warn other drivers.

2. You have a failure of your headlamps or tail lamps while driving down the road and use your hazard flashers so that other drivers may see you.

3 Extreme weather conditions (although often times, many people pull over because it is too dangerous to continue).

 

[oldballs]

Same here, wipers on = headlights on. I think auto makers should incorporate that into the vehicle when building them. Too many people here drive without lights when wipers are on too.

Using that line of thought, the auto makers might as well put a sensor in that turns the headlights/tail lights on according to some norm. Seein' how there are so many idiots that don't know when it is advisable.

 

[Egon]

Any of you fellows get real lonely? Like your the only one?

 

[check]

We've had daylight running lights here for at least 20 years.... and I'm amazed how many people go out of their way to disable them.

Yep. The dealers are not allowed to sell a car that doesn't have them on all the time, including the daytime.

 

[MossRoad]

Don't worry, it won't be long before you won't be able to drive your own car... then we'll all be safe.

 

[k0ua]

Using that line of thought, the auto makers might as well put a sensor in that turns the headlights/tail lights on according to some norm. Seein' how there are so many idiots that don't know when it is advisable.

Um... don't all modern vehicles do just that very thing. All I have owned for some time now do..