Will this be tomorrow's transportation?

[MossRoad]

Please describe the fracking environmental issues you anticipate coming to light we are unaware of today. HS.

Please read a newspaper once in a while.

 

[MossRoad]

,,,,,,,Buzzards dont eat fast food.

Ha! Nice... :laughing:

 

[buickanddeere]

Are you indicating one large power generating station for Canada on either the east or west coast would be preferable to what we have now? Or maybe place it on Hudson's Bay in a more central location?


You have been noted for making comments on varying power demands have you not? Flexibility and separation may be beneficial in the long run. Sure make the required shutdowns easier and aid when natural disasters occure.

More power generating sources give the distribution system much more flexibility. Remember Quebec's ice storm or some of the total grid shutdowns?? If'n all you got is one horse and it up and dies your just plain looking at the proverbial paddle and creek! Being able to easily diversify can be very beneficial.

2 X 1500 in the middle of of an industrial heartland and high population density area puts the generation near the load. Who would be bird brained enough to put reactors as such where you want them?
Take a look at the way generation, transmission and loads were laid out before Dalton, Wynne and Justin made a mess of everything. That is how it was supposed to be.
Back in the day the 540 MW and 600MW units was all they had until the Bruce B and Darlington units went on line.
The ACR-1000 rated at 1200MW and up would have been the real deal but unfortunatly starting Oct 23 2003 the plan was to run nasty dirty industry and " dirty" generation from Ontario and Canada . By that wide eyed fanatical environmental zealot Butts. And just have office jobs and clean high tech research etc all powered with just wind, sun and hydroelectric in his perfect world. Dirty industry would be out of sight and out of mind in China etc.
World wide nuclear and coal is being pushed out of the market via being financially ruined with low wholesale electrical rates. Caused by subsidized wind, solar and natural gas lowering the wholesale rate and driving away industry with increased retail rates.

 

[Egon]

Are you saying reactors cannot be located near population density? Why is this, are they not safe?
Has the Ontario distribution system been upgraded in the last few years.

 

[turnkey4099]

Pumping Hydrogen in a liquid state is not like pumping #2 diesel.

And keeping it liquid takes a lot more than just a tank

 

[buickanddeere]

Are you saying reactors cannot be located near population density? Why is this, are they not safe?
Has the Ontario distribution system been upgraded in the last few years.

No, no, no. How could you come up with that conclusion ?

 

[dickfoster]

Are you saying reactors cannot be located near population density? Why is this, are they not safe?
Has the Ontario distribution system been upgraded in the last few years.

It's not a good idea to put light water uranium fueled reactors near populated areas because they have a natural tendency to want to run wild and require high pressure containment vessels. As happened with the fiasco in Japan and Chernobyl. Molten salt like LFTRs on the other hand are throttled reactors and want to shut down on their own and require no containment vessels so should be safer to operate near populated areas.
The only reason light water reactors were so popular with the NRA & DOE was because they could produce materials for nuclear weapons from it while you could not get that stuff with thorium fueled MSRs. As with many things, it was mostly politics and we the people wound up shafted. Not all nuclear energy is bad, only some of it along with what wound up being popular at the time.

 

[dickfoster]

Please read a newspaper once in a while.

Quite possibly one of the worst possible choices for relevant information today. It's a lot like going to grammar school looking for information on calculus and higher mathematics. That old saying "the blind leading the blind" comes to mind.

 

[dickfoster]

And keeping it liquid takes a lot more than just a tank

It's a lot like propane and LOX. Standard gas laws apply as per that famous mick Chemist Mr. Boyle.

 

[Egon]

Thanks dickfoster for the clarification.

No need for me to reply to several posters.

I will add that California has the start of hydrogen refuelling network so it has to be plausible.

 

[dickfoster]

DF, there are guys on the net who seem to demonstrate that electrolysis produced by a cars alternator can keep an engine running, and it's entirely plausible ... as long as the water pump and alt are the only loads on the demo engine. :scratchchin: No one ever shows a car with AT in gear or being driven. btw, Energy exchanges have various inefficiencies, but basically I say you're dead-on about what could easily be done. (and w/MSRs )

Gotta keep your eye peeled for those perpetual motion idjits and mason jar fusion types. LOL

 

[Egon]

And keeping it liquid takes a lot more than just a tank

Hydrogen storage.


Here are some examples of hydrogen refuelling stations so it should work!
[video]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_station[/video]

 

[/pine]

Gotta keep your eye peeled for those perpetual motion idjits and mason jar fusion types. LOL

I think future innovations in transportation will be more about zero friction and anti-gravity physics than about energy transformations...
In abstract...just look what they can and are learning to do with carbon chains...

 

[buickanddeere]

The molten salt reactor eventually will have to be adopted world wide for clean reliable baseload power. The PHWR CANDU does make a good breeder reactor to manufacture some desirable elements.

 

[houstonscott]

Alternative fuels have been fully explored, CO2 has proven not to be a warming gas, no threat there, the inertial combustion engine is a very mature technology. Natural gas is replacing coal for large scale electric generation, thanks to fracking it's in abundance. Oh, yeah, fracking has done more to reduce emissions than anything the government could do.. Electric cars are interesting but not practical, no one really wants a battery car, and battery production is very dirty, so dirty it can't legally be made in USA. Takes very rare resources that could be uses other places. Nearly 100 percent of electric cars and hybrids are heavy subsidized by government. In the free market place they go away. HS

 

[Egon]

Alternative fuels have been fully explored, CO2 has proven not to be a warming gas, no threat there, the inertial combustion engine is a very mature technology. Natural gas is replacing coal for large scale electric generation, thanks to fracking it's in abundance. Oh, yeah, fracking has done more to reduce emissions than anything the government could do.. Electric cars are interesting but not practical, no one really wants a battery car, and battery production is very dirty, so dirty it can't legally be made in USA. Takes very rare resources that could be uses other places. Nearly 100 percent of electric cars and hybrids are heavy subsidized by government. In the free market place they go away. HS

Stage coaches were also well established at one time!

 

[houstonscott]

Stage coaches were also well established at one time!

Yeah, my point, we're not going back to electric cars. They didn't work in 1900 and they are the stage coach of today. No ones going to continue to buy power at 8-12x the cost, for power generated by machines that kill Eagles at the Obama authorized rate of 4200 a year. HS

 

[vvanders]

Alternative fuels have been fully explored, CO2 has proven not to be a warming gas, no threat there, the inertial combustion engine is a very mature technology. Natural gas is replacing coal for large scale electric generation, thanks to fracking it's in abundance. Oh, yeah, fracking has done more to reduce emissions than anything the government could do.. Electric cars are interesting but not practical, no one really wants a battery car, and battery production is very dirty, so dirty it can't legally be made in USA. Takes very rare resources that could be uses other places. Nearly 100 percent of electric cars and hybrids are heavy subsidized by government. In the free market place they go away. HS

Uf da, so many things wrong with all you've said there.

CO2 is definitely a greenhouse gas and has been shown to be contributing to increasing temperatures. We're not talking about some random institution but some of the brightest minds at NASA http://climate.nasa.gov/causes/ . The rest of the world understands this and it still floors me that this lie is pervasive in the US. Unless you want to tell me that NASA, you know the guys who put man on the moon have no clue what they're talking about.

With respect to battery production, have multiple sources for that? Someone might want to tell Elon Musk considering they're already building one of the biggest battery factories in the world in Nevada.

 

[/pine]

Uf da, so many things wrong with all you've said there.

CO2 is definitely a greenhouse gas and has been shown to be contributing to increasing temperatures. We're not talking about some random institution but some of the brightest minds at NASA Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet: Causes . The rest of the world understands this and it still floors me that this lie is pervasive in the US. Unless you want to tell me that NASA, you know the guys who put man on the moon have no clue what they're talking about.

With respect to battery production, have multiple sources for that? Someone might want to tell Elon Musk considering they're already building one of the biggest battery factories in the world in Nevada.

Uf da
proof nasa lied about global warming - Google Search

 

[houstonscott]

Uf da, so many things wrong with all you've said there. CO2 is definitely a greenhouse gas and has been shown to be contributing to increasing temperatures. We're not talking about some random institution but some of the brightest minds at NASA http://climate.nasa.gov/causes/ . The rest of the world understands this and it still floors me that this lie is pervasive in the US. Unless you want to tell me that NASA, you know the guys who put man on the moon have no clue what they're talking about. With respect to battery production, have multiple sources for that? Someone might want to tell Elon Musk considering they're already building one of the biggest battery factories in the world in Nevada.

Elon Musk isn't building anything, the American tax payers are..... They have tried everything to prove CO2 is a so called greenhouse gas and every one of the brightest minds have been wrong for over 40 years now, so, no so bright in my book. Those brilliant ones are still looking for the heat, can't find it, might be the deep ocean is the latest excuse. It's very simple if the sun warms the earth warms, if the sun cools the earth cools, if the sun is closer to earth it warms, if it moves away it cools. Nothing else matters. Oh, by the way a NASA scientist to me this.... HS