Coldwater tractors no more?

alpinebigfoot · Jan 10, 2016

Was looking to get a loader for my 186d. Cold water and koka spelled wrong I know. Where to find ? Been searching for awhile.

jerrybob · Jan 10, 2016

Coldwater is still in business......just spoke to them a few minutes ago......I live about an hour from them. You can call them at 360 533 2160. They are still shipping FELs around the country.

California · Jan 10, 2016

Here's a Google search that returns some references to him.

https://www.google.com/search?q=coldwater+loader&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=coldwater+tractors+hoquiam

For some reason he decided maintaining an Internet presence was too much nuisance, but he's still there in the real world.

alpinebigfoot · Jan 10, 2016

Nice thanks for the info!

clemsonfor · Jan 11, 2016

A very poor business decision in such a niche market as loader fabrication for 30 year old yanmar tractors!! Even old japanese tractors in general. Guess he figures folks find him...cause they cant find him and come to tractor forums to ask about a place for this and that then we give up his info for him.

ANd i know her probably does not just make loaders for yanmar as a sole business.

alpinebigfoot · Jan 11, 2016

I know it would be well worth having a site up for that. Even a free one.

Rock knocker · Jan 11, 2016

clemsonfor said:
A very poor business decision in such a niche market as loader fabrication for 30 year old yanmar tractors!! Even old japanese tractors in general. Guess he figures folks find him...cause they cant find him and come to tractor forums to ask about a place for this and that then we give up his info for him.

ANd i know her probably does not just make loaders for yanmar as a sole business.

Probably just as well for Coldwater. Look at his posts here, he put no effort into spelling and punctuation. Probably the same at his web site.

If you have a company, you need to put at least a modicum of effort into making it look like the owner can spell words like "E-bay" and is aware of what century this is.

If you can't do that, you are probably best off to withdraw from the net and live the 1975 business model of your dreams.

alpinebigfoot · Jan 11, 2016

I have been reading good things from others who have his equipment. Anyone have any negatives?

clemsonfor · Jan 11, 2016

Rock knocker said:
Probably just as well for Coldwater. Look at his posts here, he put no effort into spelling and punctuation. Probably the same at his web site.

If you have a company, you need to put at least a modicum of effort into making it look like the owner can spell words like "E-bay" and is aware of what century this is.

If you can't do that, you are probably best off to withdraw from the net and live the 1975 business model of your dreams.

Yea i get what your saying. It was strange to see that . I dont punctuate and capitalize the best (this software on my computer does not capatilize the begenning letter for some reason?) But an effort needs to be made but like he said he is a welder and fabricator not a teacher. He may not know any better? We should not mention it over and over, may be something he is embarrased about and therefor left because of it. And only got defensive for this reason? I have no idea personally. If this was the case i would of thought he would of just said so and ask us to ignore it...maybe too prowd?

I have heard nothing but good about the equiptment and it looks basic simple and strong to me?

jeff9366 · Jan 11, 2016

KOKYER is the other aftermarket FEL producer.

LINK: Koyker Manufacturing - Loaders

California · Jan 11, 2016

Tractor Ernie (a former Northwest importer of clean used, not reconditioned) Yanmars jumped to Coldwater's defense when I commented that Coldwater's loader design looked a little lightweight. That reply changed my mind, Ernie knows what he is talking about. An endorsement by Ernie is sufficient to convince me that a Coldwater loader is a good buy.

I still think Coldwater's business strategy is missing an important element if he has no internet visibility but that doesn't reflect on the quality of his products ... if you can find him!

MMagis · Jan 11, 2016

If he's already selling all he can make, why should he worry about advertising?

alpinebigfoot · Jan 11, 2016

I have no qualms with no internet presence. I would like to see some pictures of the work and see what it looks like on a 186

California · Jan 11, 2016

Here's a Craigslist post showing a Coldwater loader.

Tractor, 4x4, Yanmar, New loader and brush hog

I'm still digging around on CL, come back in a few minutes and see if I updated this post with more examples.

yanmar 4x4 diesel tractor new loader

The refurb dealer in Corona (Los Angeles region) seems to be using Coldwater loaders now.

inland empire farm & garden "yanmar" - craigslist

Yanmar 4X4 tractor with loader

And a junk YM186D being parted out. (the loader is sold).
yanmar 186 d for parts
His photos give you a comparison to the Coldwater loader.

That's all. These CL listings will disappear when sold so you might want to save a copy of the photos for yourself.

jerrybob · Jan 11, 2016

I was at Coldwater a few years ago......he is about an hour from me. When I visited......he had over a hundred Yanmars scattered around his property. They were building a backhoe at the time and had a couple of FELs on site. While I was there......he sold a tractor with backhoe/FEL and another guy came in an ordered a FEL. I know a local guy that has one of his FELs and likes it. I must admit......his place is not pretty but he's got a lot of stuff spread out over several acres. My two cents.

alpinebigfoot · Jan 11, 2016

Very nice thanks for looking around on there. The 186 should be heavy enough to get some digging and scraping here on the farm with that FEL

careyo63 · Jan 11, 2016

If Coldwater wasn't on the other side of the world from me. I would have already most likely bought one of his loaders. Shipping would be $$$$$. And I'm the worst and can hardly type. My punctuation and spelling Sux. Big Time. Mostly from a Arm, Hand and Head Injury's. I have to keep a online Dic. in my Favorites so my posts don't make me look Stupid! Well I better not go there :laughing:
Cold water doesn't have _ _it on me. Never hear anything bad about his products. So I could care less about his spelling. LOL. Plus I have a JD with a Fel. I can bring to this property if need be @ 55Hp. I've used it for the last 10yrs. and know all to well it's capability's. That's why my 2000 doesn't have a FEL.. Fact is I'm fixing to buy a Dirt Scoop to haul things around with. Not so much Digging with....

normde2001 · Jan 11, 2016

Coldwater loaders only have a single curl cylinder where other loaders have 2, which has never seemed to be a problem. A man can curl a 600 lb load with a small crowbar. The price difference, ($1800 vs $2500), makes it worthwhile.

clemsonfor · Jan 12, 2016

There are commercial pieces of equiptment with single cylinder dumps. as long as the bucket is rigid enough and that single cylinder can move the weight and not rip out of its mount that is a non issue.

clemsonfor · Jan 12, 2016

California said:
Here's a Craigslist post showing a Coldwater loader.

Tractor, 4x4, Yanmar, New loader and brush hog

I'm still digging around on CL, come back in a few minutes and see if I updated this post with more examples.

yanmar 4x4 diesel tractor new loader

The refurb dealer in Corona (Los Angeles region) seems to be using Coldwater loaders now.

inland empire farm & garden "yanmar" - craigslist

Yanmar 4X4 tractor with loader

And a junk YM186D being parted out. (the loader is sold).
yanmar 186 d for parts
His photos give you a comparison to the Coldwater loader.

That's all. These CL listings will disappear when sold so you might want to save a copy of the photos for yourself.

Is that dealer in Corona selling Frederics yanmars as far as you can tell? or buying old VN ones in the region and going over them? They must be as there not calling them YNM tractors or japanese diesel tractors.