Need recommendation

[Lowcountry17]

for an appropriate trailer for my JD5065e with FEL that I can pull with my 1500 Silverado. thanks.

 

[newbury]

What's a "1500 Siverado"?
Tow capacity may range from 8K to 10K.
What's the sticker on your door say? Or in the manua?

 

[LD1]

Yep. Need to know more about the truck and more about the tractor.

A new 1500 can tow ~11k if properly equipped.

A 1500 of just 10 years ago is only ~8k


The Tractor weighs 5500# with no options. Cab, Loader, loaded tires, an attachment on back.....It is easy to have tractor+implement push 10k.

Trailer is gonna weigh 2000-2500#.

So you could have a towable load of anywhere from 7500# to 12500#. And depending on the truck, might be possible, might not. Just too many variables to give accurate advise

 

[Lowcountry17]

It's a full size Chevy 1500 pickup. Not worried about tow capacity though. Really just want a good trailer that will hold that heavy sumbitch plus maybe one implement. If I need a different vehicle to pull it, so be it. Though unless the 1500 refuses to move, I'm pretty sure I can make it work.

 

[RedNeckRacin]

OP, I think you need to provide some more information about the year of your truck and the options on the tractor if you want some good advice, What you do with that advice is up to you.

 

[LD1]

Okay. So how heavy is the load?

Does it have a loader?
Cab?
Loaded tires?
What is your heaviest implement?

And what is the tow capacity of the truck? Year? Gears?

All very important info otherwise you arent gonna get good advise. You are pushing the limits of the truck, therefore any overkill in a trailer is just more weight your possibly undersized truck has to lug around.

It would be easy to sit here and say a 14K trailer. But if you dont have a loader, cab, or loaded tires, a 10k would be a better fit and lighter.

 

[Lowcountry17]

Appreciate the feedback fellas. Like I said, the truck may or may not work, but here's the info on it: 2006 crew cab 1500 Silverado 4wd, I think it as the 3.73 RD.

The tractor is a 5065e MFWD, 553 loader and loaded tires and heaviest implement is MX6 bushhog.

 

[LD1]

I am showing a 7400# tow rating for your truck. So I do not think there is any way to make that work.

The tractor as equipped in heaviest config looks to be ~9500-10000#

Since a 12k trailer likely will weigh in the ~2500# range, thats too close IMO. And the weight and cost difference to go to a 14k trailer isnt significant.

So, I'd get a 14k trailer, and 24-25' long. You will be looking at a ~3000# or so trailer for a total tow of 13k +/-.

You need more truck. Exveeding the rating by a few hundred pounds or even 1000# isnt a huge deal. But almost doubling it.....You need more truck.

 

[dodge man]

I'm going to throw out the weight you would be hauling at 8000 to 9000 lbs. That probably means a 14k trailer. If I was hauling that a lot or long distances, I'd want a gooseneck. If not a bumper pull would probably be fine. I'd count on the load your hauling plus the trailer being at least 11,000 lbs and maybe more like 12,000 lbs. I haven't looked up the actual capacity of your truck, but I bet thats more than you should be pulling. That said, a good hitch, a weight distributing hitch with sway control, you would be safer than some of the stuff you see going down the road.

 

[terryknight]

i have a 5055e no cab, no loaded tires, with the 553 loader, bucket weighing just under 400 lbs, woods RM90 on the back, full tank of fuel and my 220 lbs in the seat the tractor weighs 7920 (or maybe it was 7980), i do have the weigh carrier on the front i think it's about 120 lbs. i tow it on a 10K 20ft trailer. it is pushing the limits both in length and weight. i bought it because it was a good deal and would be useful. if i were to do it again i would go with a 14K 22ft equipment type trailer with stand up ramps



i also have a 27ft GN which gets used as well



both have their place

 

[LD1]

Terryknight:

Loaded tires would add ~1200# to that combo. So 9k-9.5k for the OP.

Have you ever towed it with the loader and mower both on the 20' trailer? How far off the back did the mower hang?

I have a 20' BP trailer. And a much smaller kubota L3400. With the loader and a 6' hog, it dont work too well. Overall length is about 23'. Not sure one could do a larger tractor with 6' hog without most of the bushhog hanging off the back of the trailer.

Your RM90 mower probably isnt as long as a 6' bushhog

 

[terryknight]

i think you're light on the loaded tires, but i don't have the manual in front of me. i think it says about 750-760 lbs per tire, either way it's quite a bit more.

i was hoping i had a pic of the tractor/bucket/mower on the smaller trailer, i don't. the tailwheels i normal push sideways and they fall right behind the deck of the trailer, just hanging off. i wouldn't try to move the 6ft bushhog or the scraper blade on the trailer. way too long

 

[LD1]

i think you're light on the loaded tires, but i don't have the manual in front of me. i think it says about 750-760 lbs per tire, either way it's quite a bit more.

i was hoping i had a pic of the tractor/bucket/mower on the smaller trailer, i don't. the tailwheels i normal push sideways and they fall right behind the deck of the trailer, just hanging off. i wouldn't try to move the 6ft bushhog or the scraper blade on the trailer. way too long

The chart I saw said 57 gallons for a 16.9x28. So if WW fluid @ 8#, thats actually a little under 500# per tire. But calcium or rimguard pushing 11#/gallon, could be more. Either way, 9000-9500 is probably close enough.

As to the trailer, I think you would want even more than 22' if there was a 6' hog hanging off the back. Thus my recommendation for a 24-25' trailer. Would you agree? or do you think it is doable on a 22'?

 

[terryknight]

you could do it. but alot depends on the situation, are you carrying the bucket? the loader? neither? where are the axles on the trailer? can you pull the tractor on backwards and put a mower more over the tongue? what about driving on frontwards and hanging the loader/bucket over the tongue? all depends yes it can be done, once you get to 25ft BP may as well go with a GN. my thoughts anyway.

From my manual 14.9-28 tires using calcium chloride @ 5lbs/gal 574lbs per tire 75% full
16.9-28 747lbs per tire
16.9-24 (r4) 654lbs per tire

so with the smaller tires you were right 1200ish lbs.

 

[LD1]

Even on the 16.9x28,s it just depends on what they are loaded with.

It holds 57 gallons.

Water is 8.3#/gallon, so JUST water or WW fluid would be #473 per tire

With and additional 5# per gallon of dissolved calcium, that would add 285# per tire for a total of ~758# per tire.

Ofcourse it could be anything in between too.

 

[terryknight]

true. but i feel that a 16.9-28 tire is more than 57 gal.

not that it makes a difference in what we're talking about

 

[terryknight]

found this, don't know how accurate it is

matches the JD manual

Ballast Volume and Weight

 

[LD1]

Interesting.

This was what I first glanced at http://www.agf.gov.bc.ca/resmgmt/publist/200Series/210104-1.pdf

But looking at some other charts, seems most are saying the same thing you are.

But you are right, dont much matter in the context of this thread.

 

[terryknight]

those canadians and their imperial gallons

 

[Diamondpilot]

Plain and simple you need more truck.

Sorry for the bad news.

Chris