"Great Stuff" expanding foam ????

[kebo]

Does anyone know if you can get the "Great Stuff" expanding foam in different colors? The usual color is like a beige or off-white, but I would like to get some in a dark brown, or maybe a black if they offer it. Anybody know??

 

[aczlan]

They make a "Pond and Stone" waterproof version that is black. Not sure on the price though.

Aaron Z

 

[CDN Farm Boy]

I've used just about every expanding foam on the market up here. Blue, pink, white, various shades of beige/yellow/orange, possibly even a green one. Never seen brown, black or grey. As far as I know, they are all supposed to be covered for both UV and fire ratings so what difference does the colour make?

Personally, the 'Great Stuff' brand is one of the worst on the market

 

[aczlan]

Here is the "Pond and Stone" stuff: GREAT STUFF

Aaron Z

 

[teg]

...Personally, the 'Great Stuff' brand is one of the worst on the market

What brand is better for larger gaps??? (only heard of "Great Stuff")

 

[/pine]

On a side note...I was recently researching using expanding foam for a unique application and was checking the temperatures for curing...I found a post by a user that had used foam on a basement wall around a new window installation...the user applied the foam and installed the window in 30 degree weather and all seemed fine...for the winter that is...
...When spring and warmer weather arrived the uncured foam that was in the wall started to expand to the point that it blew out the wall and broke the window glass and frame...!

 

[Budweiser John]

Great Stuff comes in two flavors. Expanding for gaps and cracks and minimal expanding for windows and doors.
Frequently the mind set is if a little foam is good, more is better. Wrong. You can compress the jambs on windows and doors making them totally inoperaopal.

 

[EddieWalker]

Does anyone know if you can get the "Great Stuff" expanding foam in different colors? The usual color is like a beige or off-white, but I would like to get some in a dark brown, or maybe a black if they offer it. Anybody know??

Why? I've found that once it hardens, you can cut it and paint it any color you want. I usually run some caulking over it to smooth it out if it's going to remain visible.

This is with the closed cell version. The open cell version for using around doors and windows. It doesn't have any strength and pretty much falls apart to the touch.

Eddie

 

[Coyote machine]

Here is what I use: Touch-n-Foam insulating sealants - energy savings foam insulation - spray foam insulation Recently bought the 600 series 2 tank kit to insulate the heck out of my bathroom remodel, and it worked perfectly. I also use Roxul for insulation and sound deadening. Together they worked to create a super warm, no draft, sound deadened room, that's quieter than any other room in the house.:thumbsup:

 

[CDN Farm Boy]

What brand is better for larger gaps??? (only heard of "Great Stuff")

There's a few dozen different brands that I have crossed and likely just as many that I haven't.

This is my personal favorite at the moment:



About 3x the yield and don't have to clean the gun 1/10th as often. Another huge plus, the surface sets very quickly that if you happen to touch it before fully cured, you aren't covered in the sticky mess.

We used about 300 cans this summer of various brands. This was hands down our favorite. If the gap was anything above 1.5" or so, I'd run a double pass with about 15 min between.

 

[CDN Farm Boy]

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[clemsonfor]

Yea i have some of the large gap great stuff thats been exposed to rain and weather for probably 7 years or so and it has darkened but looks fine and still appears to be doing its job of filling the gap around some pipes in my well house.

Why does this site software still double post!!!! its been like 3 years or more since this started happening right?

 

[PILOON]

Why? I've found that once it hardens, you can cut it and paint it any color you want. I usually run some caulking over it to smooth it out if it's going to remain visible.

This is with the closed cell version. The open cell version for using around doors and windows. It doesn't have any strength and pretty much falls apart to the touch.

Eddie

Correct.
We used to use foam to float out docks. We would paint 2 coats of water based primer to seal the pores followed by an oil paint to finish up.
Worked great until somebody bashed a boat and tore out a chunk.
My dock is floating on 6" of pink urathane foam and it never leaves the water. So far it has lasted 22 years!

 

[farmer2009]

Looking for the equipment to be able to do some large scale sealing. Just don't see the cans as being cost effective. Does anyone know where to get the equipment and supplies. Not having much luck on internet. Looked at the 600sqft tanks and maybe I'm just not understanding yells on them but seams I would need a lot of them. Any help please.

 

[CDN Farm Boy]

Looking for the equipment to be able to do some large scale sealing. Just don't see the cans as being cost effective. Does anyone know where to get the equipment and supplies. Not having much luck on internet. Looked at the 600sqft tanks and maybe I'm just not understanding yells on them but seams I would need a lot of them. Any help please.

It depends on your definition of "large scale". You are right, the cans while convenient, add up quickly but there is a huge difference in price between the brands and suppliers. The one I showed earlier we were getting for $8 a can (when buying a csse of 12) and it outlasted the $17 great stuff 3 to 1.

I also used one of the 600 bdft systems for my basement just to seal the drafts. Once you pass a certain threshold, it makes sense to call in a spray foam contactor.

What are you trying to seal? You can't beat the accuracy of the cans on an applicator gun for small gaps, even miles of them. If you are trying to seal large areas (like a drafty wall) then they aren't the right option.

 

[farmer2009]

It depends on your definition of "large scale". You are right, the cans while convenient, add up quickly but there is a huge difference in price between the brands and suppliers. The one I showed earlier we were getting for $8 a can (when buying a csse of 12) and it outlasted the $17 great stuff 3 to 1. I also used one of the 600 bdft systems for my basement just to seal the drafts. Once you pass a certain threshold, it makes sense to call in a spray foam contactor. What are you trying to seal? You can't beat the accuracy of the cans on an applicator gun for small gaps, even miles of them. If you are trying to seal large areas (like a drafty wall) then they aren't the right option.

I have 4 20,000sqft barns. I am trying to tighten them up and make it easier to heat. 6 foot eves. I was looking for commercial equipment. As I know of a few more guys around that maybe interested in it also. They all have more barns than me. Figured it up and I was going to need 33 of the 600ft kits just to do one. That's like 30k. Needs to be more cost effective for me.

 

[aczlan]

We have had a lot of it sprayfoaming done at work and it isnt cheap. Are you trying to spray the whole interior or just the seams?
I would get a couple of sprayfoam contractors out for quotes and possibly arrange with your neighbors to spray their places at the same time with the same crew to save on travel/setup costs.
Material costs will be cheaper per square foot to use a 55 gallon drum with a heated pumping system (like a contractor has), they should warranty their work and they will have less waste for a learning curve. If you do it yourself, look for bigger kits, 1200 board foot kits (such as FOAM IT 1202 Class 1 Open Cell Anti-Microbial DIY Spray Foam Kit - Weatherproofing Window Insulation Kits - Amazon.com ) are common and will generally be cheaper per SF than a smaller kit
You might look to find a cold storage warehouse near you and see if they recommend a particular company.

Aaron Z

 

[Coyote machine]

You don't want to use the 600 board, NOT square foot, froth packs for any job near that big. They can vary in consistency, and are somewhat date of mfg. time & extremely temperature sensitive, especially in winter months. They're good for a bathroom/kitchen remodel.
IMHO, you want your job done by a highly recommended professional outfit who can send you to see their existing work/customers. You could get a huge job quote for the all at once approach with your neighbors, and possibly save significantly.
The only place I know of even remotely near you is:Contact Windows on Washington Your Home Improvement Specialist

They are very active on another board I frequent: DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum
I suggest you contact them via the link above, and see if they can recommend a contact in your area. Also go to diychatroom.com and see out answers to your question there. They have many pros who answer questions about what you want to know.

 

[SPIKER]

Here are a couple few for ya to look at,

Fomo | Low Pressure Polyurethane Foam Insulation Manufacturers

Building Envelope Solutions – We Look Beyond the Insulation

About Us | Icynene

Spray Foam Insulation Equipment | Portable Spray Rigs | Graco E-8P Reactor

Akron : Foam Insulation, Home Insulation, Injection Foam Insulation

http://www.sprayfoamequipment.com/

lots out there try google searching your closest big city for Spray Foam Equipment sales

Edit in : look for rental units, I found this place locally

http://sprayfoamrentals.com/spray-foam-rental-project-ohio/

and they seem to have a number of units in different states to rent with training.

Mark

 

[farmer2009]

Thanks will look at links. I did Google it but think I googled supplies not equipment sales so all I was getting was the 600bft kits.

Looking to mainly seal for better ventilation. Here's a picture of a wall panel.




The building is modular built. Steel trusses every 10 feet. Boards cover them. Prefab panels between. Lots of air leaks here. The plastic is covering a hole where a ventilation curtain use to be. Added double bubble and metal to outside and just covered hole with plastic. No insulation left in wall. Bugs have eat it out. Looking at a high density closed cell foam. So I haven't decided if I want to do whole wall or just problem spots.

Thinking of buying the equipment because I think I could pay for it with labor savings.