Cab, 12x12 shuttle and self-leveling loader?

[CDN Farm Boy]

No. If it's got joysticks there is no foot treadle.

Right.

So if I've got this all straight, Case has options of:
3 stick/foot treadle (no E-hoe)
4 stick/foot treadle (with E-hoe)
Joystick no treadle -- What operates the E-hoe with this one?

 

[farmer2009]

Right. So if I've got this all straight, Case has options of: 3 stick/foot treadle (no E-hoe) 4 stick/foot treadle (with E-hoe) Joystick no treadle -- What operates the E-hoe with this one?

If it's like the John Deere's that I've run then on the joystick there is a third lever for the e-hoe.

 

[D7E]

3 stick? Treadle pedal? Could you clarify for me?

I've run 2 stick and 4 stick but never heard of either of those

me too been driving JCB, Case,Cat since the mid 1980's and never heard of a 3 stick .

Took me quite a while to get used to slewing and curling bucket with feet in my drott after drining newer machines for so long lol

 

[RedNeckRacin]

me too been driving JCB, Case,Cat since the mid 1980's and never heard of a 3 stick .

Took me quite a while to get used to slewing and curling bucket with feet in my drott after drining newer machines for so long lol

Must not have ran any case backhoes then. They are a 3 stick setup. Bucket, dipper, boom each with their own stick. The out riggers don't count but they each have their own stick. I think the k series case was the first one to offer a different option? Someone chime in on this because I'm not sure. I know the b, c, and d's I have played with were all 3 stick hoes.

 

[D7E]

Must not have ran any case backhoes then. They are a 3 stick setup. Bucket, dipper, boom each with their own stick.

All case's I ever ran were 2 stick including the 580b that I own now and an old 580G I used to have . extenders were always foot pedals .

 

[ovrszd]

New Holland also uses a foot treadle to extend the boom.

There are a lot of variables. And there are also a lot of operator preferences. I won't claim to be a master. The masters I've talked to claim to like the hoe operations on individual sticks for accuracy. Also claim to not like the treadles for swing. Joysticks are a bit sloppier and not as accurate, but tend to be faster. Don't hafta worry about controlling two sticks in one hand or moving hand from one lever to another. When it comes to delicate work, individual sticks seem to be more accurate. Understandable when compared to joysticks which might have linkage slack that translates to bucket slop.

D7E, the variances are displayed in your reference. I've never ran a 2 stick Case. Each manufacturer tries to please everyone with many variables.

 

[ovrszd]

Sorry double post.

 

[radrock]

Right.

So if I've got this all straight, Case has options of:
3 stick/foot treadle (no E-hoe)
4 stick/foot treadle (with E-hoe)
Joystick no treadle -- What operates the E-hoe with this one?

I have to step in on this one.... I think, but not positive that the older Joystick models with an extendahoe use the same pedals on the floor for the extend hoe. I always call "Treadles" the Foot swing and still don't like them. The new Case backhoes use very short sticks on the Joystick models and are very precise. The extendahoe is controls electronically with a slider switch on the right joystick.

 

[RedNeckRacin]

All case's I ever ran were 2 stick including the 580b that I own now and an old 580G I used to have . extenders were always foot pedals .

I never ran a hoe older than a k without the 3 or 4 stick so I learned something then! I didn't think they switched to the wobble sticks until much more recently?

 

[D7E]

I never ran a hoe older than a k without the 3 or 4 stick so I learned something then! I didn't think they switched to the wobble sticks until much more recently?

I have a 1975 case 580b diesel 2 stick for sale at the moment .

 

[ovrszd]

My Brother's NH 115 extendahoe uses joysticks and a foot treadle to extend.

 

[radrock]

I was trying to find a few picture to post. Here is a three and four stick model. I wanted to put a picture of our newer case with the joystick controls. It is a pretty nice rig. I guess if it every dries up so we can go back to work I'll see if I can't get one.

 

[Danny C]

With it being Christmas, I figure that it's a good time to dream about my next tractor, not that I have any complaints with my B3300. My wife often talks about getting another dog (we already have 3) and my response is sure, when I get to have a second tractor......

Must have list:
Factory cab
12x12 shuttle trans (or greater, just don't want a 9x9)
Mechanical self-leveling loader with decent lift capacity
Aftermarket loaders are acceptable and easy to add to a good tractor that doesn't have one
Not likely new but don't want ancient either
Brand not really important but JD has a slight edge

As small as I can find meeting the above criteria.

Opinions?

Farm Boy, remember that there is no HST (Harmonized Sales Tax) on new tractors with 60 PTO horsepower and up. That's 13% savings! Used machines are subject to HST unless you have a company for the HSt to flow through. (A company remits the difference in between the HST it collects and the HST it spends to the government, thus flowing through the company). Therefore a new LS 7010 might be cheaper than a backhoe or another used tractor.

 

[CDN Farm Boy]

Thanks Danny, you make a good point. I'd heard of that before but had forgotten about it. Is that deal not only for registered farmers though?

I like the LS tractors but as I'd mentioned earlier, the dealers around me all suck and I have no confidence they'll be around for the long haul. How do you get parts with no dealer support? Its too bad the aftermarket for tractor parts isn't a bit more accessible. Even things as simple as filters?

Anyone got any good suggestions how to get parts without a dealer?

 

[GManBart]

Thanks Danny, you make a good point. I'd heard of that before but had forgotten about it. Is that deal not only for registered farmers though?

I like the LS tractors but as I'd mentioned earlier, the dealers around me all suck and I have no confidence they'll be around for the long haul. How do you get parts with no dealer support? Its too bad the aftermarket for tractor parts isn't a bit more accessible. Even things as simple as filters?

Anyone got any good suggestions how to get parts without a dealer?

There is at least one place that does online sales of LS parts....maybe two. I only had to order a couple of small pars from them, but they had decent prices, and the parts shipped direct from the LS warehouse.

Parts for LS Tractors

 

[Danny C]

Thanks Danny, you make a good point. I'd heard of that before but had forgotten about it. Is that deal not only for registered farmers though?

I like the LS tractors but as I'd mentioned earlier, the dealers around me all suck and I have no confidence they'll be around for the long haul. How do you get parts with no dealer support? Its too bad the aftermarket for tractor parts isn't a bit more accessible. Even things as simple as filters?

Anyone got any good suggestions how to get parts without a dealer?

The program is for the tractor and not registered farmers. I guess the government figures on ly farmers or companies will buy tractors that big?

 

[CDN Farm Boy]

The program is for the tractor and not registered farmers. I guess the government figures on ly farmers or companies will buy tractors that big?

Seems reasonable. Why bother with charging the tax in the first place when its going to be refunded anyway. That's got to be about the only time out government makes even the slightest bit of sense

 

[CDN Farm Boy]

Therefore a new LS 7010 might be cheaper than a backhoe or another used tractor.

Looked into this quickly today. My closest LS dealer has a P7040 on their website with a list price of $75k and a sale price of $60k (yes this is a much larger machine than the 7010 but the price was easier to find). On the JD and Kubota build and price pages, I'd be looking north of $40k plus loader and other options totaling over 50k. 40 or 50 grand will buy a really nice backhoe. On the other side, I saw a listing for a 2006 MF 5455 with 1100 hrs for $18,750, just needs a loader

 

[Piston]

I didn't think you could get a hydraulic shuttle shift transmission in the P7010? I hope I'm wrong, but if that's the case I wouldn't even consider it if I were you.

 

[Poopdeck Pappy]

I didn't think you could get a hydraulic shuttle shift transmission in the P7010? I hope I'm wrong, but if that's the case I wouldn't even consider it if I were you.

I think you're right. I think you have to move up to the P7040 to get the hydraulic shuttle.