Got an interesting letter from the RCMP today

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   / Got an interesting letter from the RCMP today #61  
Well I don't know about you Canadians. I was born and raised in the USA, and I don't believe a word any part of our government tells us:thumbdown:. Far as being shocked by a welder, I've been shocked by Lincolns, Millers, and Hobarts. Guess what, welders will shock you!:eek:
 
   / Got an interesting letter from the RCMP today #62  
I don't have a dog in this race but let me say this, I have a great deal of respect for Shield Arc and his abilities. There are others here with a great deal of skill. Name calling does not add credibility to any argument. The welder you buy is your choice. When you get a welder with the capabilities a multi thousand dollar welder for hundreds you have to expect there is a difference somewhere, I suggest manufacturing costs and quality. I have read about what is going on in China and have chosen to limit my buying of anything produced in that country. I was actually reading the PA300 discussion and having a problem not trying it. You have given me a reason not to. That should not influence anyone else it is my choice. You made yours I suggest you remember this for your next purchase, do tell others about how you as an individual are treated but the company and move on.
 
   / Got an interesting letter from the RCMP today #63  
hmnnn... lets recap.

Everlast is caught counterfeiting CSA certification labels. For over 2 years they lied, not just to me, to every Canadian customer that bought an Everlast machine...

and you haven't a single issue with their behavior.

Will you recommend Everlast welders no matter what contempt they show their customers?

I don't mind the sledge hammer idea, but I want my money back.


You still have not supplied a clearly readable copy of the letter so as to be able to determine the accuracy of your quote that you posted in an earlier post:

"This notice is the result of an investigation conducted by the RCMP,'The investigation determined there were counterfeit CSA certification marks affixed to the above noted models of Everlast welders.'"

Let us take it for the moment as FACT that your excerpt, that I quoted above, is indeed what was in the not clearly readable photo of your RCMP letter. In the statement that you quoted as coming from the RCMP you state that it says clearly that: "...there were counterfeit CSA certification marks affixed...". No where does it state that Everlast was guilty, charged with, convicted, or admitted that they were part of the counterfeiting, thus they could not have been caught as you state. You have not supplied any language from the unreadable RCMP letter that states that they were caught counterfeiting themselves only that the items had counterfeit marks.

If all is true as stated, then Everlast "may" very well have liability for not insuring that their suppliers were in compliance with said CSA requirements. They may or may not have been defrauded as well by their suppliers in China. Have you considered that? They still have the obligation to try to make it right, IMO.

You on the other hand have made some very inflammatory statements, not supported by the facts currently presented, and have accused in a public arena a company with statements that if proven false could very well result in a libel suit being brought against you. Canadian law as well as US law have many remedies that both the individual and corporations can take to defend themselves from libel and slander.

In no way am I suggesting that you stop your pursuit of a remedy to your situation but I suggest that you curtail any statement that you can not prove that maybe found to be libelous if you want to protect yourself from future legal risk. You could have brought all this information up and discussed it without making claims/statements that do not appear to be supported by the evidence.

Please continue to post in your thread the information as it develops but contain your emotion and do not make statements that may come back to bite you. While it is not likely (IMO) that Everlast would pursue this avenue, you may have opened yourself up to things that you will regret. Your statements should be supported by facts, not opinion, not emotion. Read the excerpted statement that you quoted from the unreadable photo of the RCMP letter carefully and understand what it means not what you think or want it to mean.

Do as you wish. I would suggest keeping a level head and please keep your emotions in check when dealing with other members and with Everlast if you want a positive outcome.

I could, but am not going to, quote the case law in which individuals have been found at fault for what they have posted on public forums and in one case even in a private posting. Be careful.
 
   / Got an interesting letter from the RCMP today #64  
as far as the "house being connected to the grid "

all items used to build the house ( wiring wise and installation ) have to be done to "code" and signed off by the inspector before connecting to the grid .... do it wrong and you can't connect...

I've been shocked by a lot of equipment that has CSA stickers UL CE etc ... just means they are safe when used as directed ... weld outside or in wet conditions and you take your chances .... ( I'm still here )

Shield arc doesn't benefit from "everlast" or anything else on this board ... and has no reason to promote or defame either .... just a good well balanced approach to welding / equipment and its problems .

I have learned a lot from his " wisdom " ( as well as from a lot of other great guys on the site )

you obviously have a problem with everlast ,,, I concede you may have some very valid points and would like it resolved to your satisfaction...

I urge you to first contact them directly and see what they are willing to do for you .... If after the negotiations, you are dissatisfied , then you should come back and let us know the outcome and how you were treated....
 
   / Got an interesting letter from the RCMP today #65  
You watched that for 6 hours???You need a new hobby..
Your usual humor Murph :rolleyes:

No They "Investigated" or rather terrorized a child who had no clue that it was federal offense to pick anything up off of a beach in a provincial park, and they literally made that childs life **** for 6 hours for picking up a piece of coal
 
   / Got an interesting letter from the RCMP today #66  
I provided a link to a picture of the letter in the first post.

/QUOTE]

as I think several of us have mentioned, that link is virtually worthless.
And since you have not been willing or able to provide us a usable link, I feel and possibly others may feel you are trying to deceive us.
Just saying.....
:rolleyes:
 
   / Got an interesting letter from the RCMP today #67  
here is another copy of the letter, hopefully this is a little easier to read.

This is ALMOST as bad as the original one
If we could read it, prove to us how we would know it is an official RCMP document!

People with axes to grind would NEVER fake something would they??
 
   / Got an interesting letter from the RCMP today #68  
I figured an Everlast shill would dig that up soon enough.

I notice the thread is still locked. :thumbsup:

btw, shieldarc, that is the thread I referred to in the first post of this thread. you wouldn't by chance be trying to get this thread locked too?

Dude, I can guarandamntee I do not have any interest in Everlast but I do get a feeling in my gut that you are like a guy who got dumped by a girlfriend and now you are out to get even with her.
Is it you are unable to get a spark out of your machine?
The hate inside you is going to eat you alive
 
   / Got an interesting letter from the RCMP today
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#69  
Well I don't know about you Canadians. I was born and raised in the USA, and I don't believe a word any part of our government tells us:thumbdown:. Far as being shocked by a welder, I've been shocked by Lincolns, Millers, and Hobarts. Guess what, welders will shock you!:eek:

oh, I see... according to you I'm supposed to believe my trusty Everlast salesman, and just ignore the police.

And now it's about being a Canadian?

If criminal acts by sleazy salesmen are okay with you, why not just come out and say it?

Interesting that Mark doesn't seem to have anything more to say... taking the 5th?

btw, lilbuddy, I have never had a Chinese girlfriend... maybe I should make the switch?
 
   / Got an interesting letter from the RCMP today #70  
Your usual humor Murph :rolleyes:

No They "Investigated" or rather terrorized a child who had no clue that it was federal offense to pick anything up off of a beach in a provincial park, and they literally made that childs life **** for 6 hours for picking up a piece of coal

Actually very unusual when I do a quote from you.:rolleyes: And what does that have to do with Welding machines?
 
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