Are all sub compacts essentially equal?

[GManBart]

A 1/2 ton and 1 ton Chevy truck are the same width, length, height. Does that make them comparable?

All SCUTs have 26-12-12 tires or smaller. Look at what size tires are on a Kubota B2620 or JD 2520 and look at what is on the boomer 25. Does the length of the Boomer 25 include the 3 point hitch?

Tractors and trucks are different, and you know it.

So now it's tires size that defines the machine, not the actual length, height, and weight? :confused2:

LS, who makes the Boomer 25, tends to put one size larger tires on all their machines...that doesn't make my R4047H a Utility machine.

Further, the "rule" about tire size is nothing more than your opinion.

Yes, the 3pt is included in the length of the Boomer 25.

Honestly, it just sounds like the Kubota guys being defensive about the BX series more than anything else. Big deal, they're on the small side of the SCUT group. Some will be the same, some will be bigger, but that doesn't make a 1,500-1,700lb machine a CUT.

 

[TSO]

A 1/2 ton and 1 ton Chevy truck are the same width, length, height. Does that make them comparable?

that's a silly argument... I thought this was a serious conservation?

 

[94BULLITT]

Look at what Messicks has them listed as and what they are compared too.

http://www.messicks.com/newequip/SmallCompactTractors.aspx

 

[94BULLITT]

Honestly, it just sounds like the Kubota guys being defensive about the BX series more than anything else. Big deal, they're on the small side of the SCUT group. Some will be the same, some will be bigger, but that doesn't make a 1,500-1,700lb machine a CUT.

At least you agree that the Boomer 25 is larger than the BX and 1 series.

 

[GManBart]

At least you agree that the Boomer 25 is larger than the BX and 1 series.

It's not bigger than the 1 series...not by any amount that matters.

On the other hand, the 1 series is 7" longer than the BX. So 7" longer is okay, but 8" longer isn't?

 

[94BULLITT]

It's not bigger than the 1 series...not by any amount that matters.

On the other hand, the 1 series is 7" longer than the BX. So 7" longer is okay, but 8" longer isn't?

The LS brochure calls it a small compact. http://lstractorusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/J-Series-Brochure.pdf
So does the website. J-Series « LS Tractor USA

Why does Messicks compare it to a B series which is comparable to a 2000 series Deere?

 

[MinnesotaEric]

A true classic.....they don't / can't make them like that anymore.

Thanks, my uncle was the costume designer for that movie.

 

[GManBart]

The LS brochure calls it a small compact. http://lstractorusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/J-Series-Brochure.pdf
So does the website. J-Series « LS Tractor USA

Why does Messicks compare it to a B series which is comparable to a 2000 series?

Irrelevant questions. None of those change the fact that the 1 series is much larger than a BX, and essentially the same size as a Boomer 20/24/25.

Trying to suggest that a 1 series is a SCUT, and a Boomer 25 is a CUT is pretty silly, but go on beating the dead horse....it won't change what the tape measure reveals.

Since arbitrary decisions seem to agree with you, I think I'll make a counter; if it weighs under 1,800lbs, and has a two-range HST it's a SCUT.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Irrelevant questions. None of those change the fact that the 1 series is much larger than a BX, and essentially the same size as a Boomer 20/24/25.

Trying to suggest that a 1 series is a SCUT, and a Boomer 25 is a CUT is pretty silly, but go on beating the dead horse....it won't change what the tape measure reveals.

Since arbitrary decisions seem to agree with you, I think I'll make a counter; if it weighs under 1,800lbs, and has a two-range HST it's a SCUT.

Suggestion:

No steps: it's a SCUT.
One step: it's a CUT.
Two or Three steps: it is a Utility tractor
Three or more steps: it is a crop row tractor.

 

[Cherokee140]

that's a silly argument... I thought this was a serious conservation?

Not really but it is fun.