Building a stick frame house in the woods in 90 days

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The garage door hangers look pretty much standard fare to me. They look "bent" I think because they had to anchor them in the nearest truss to the end of the rail maybe?

I'm impressed you got that dumpster moved Peter. Great advertisement for John Deere 3pt strength.
 
   / Building a stick frame house in the woods in 90 days #1,962  
The garage door hangers look pretty much standard fare to me. They look "bent" I think because they had to anchor them in the nearest truss to the end of the rail maybe?.

Peter,
Just add this to the big list of things you will need to do yourself to make the house right after the contractor is gone.
Put the door up as it is in the picture. Mark each rail where the top roller stops. Go an inch back toward the end of the rail where the hanger is bolted now and make another mark, or straight down from the ceiling bracket if it does not interfear with the rollers.. Close the door and unplug the operator.
Drill new holes at your proper marks in the rails. If they used carriage bolts you can either file your holes square or just use regular hex bolts. Bend the brackets forward to meet the new holes. If the one is still twisted, take it down and straighten it in a vice or over a scrap of wood with a hammer. Reinstall the bolts, plug in the motor and run the door up and down.

If the operator buttons are mounted in the mud room or right outside the door you might find it handy to mount another set on the front wall near the door as well. Momentary contact door bell buttons will do the job.
Ron
 
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Peter:Regarding the soffit, isn't it against code to use PT inside of a house? My memory could be awful and I am thinking of something else. -Stu
You have to use PT wood for the sills and bottom plates of walls sitting on concrete. I don't know what the code says about using PT wood elsewhere. However, my concern would be warpage of the wood. PT wood tends to warp badly as it dries, especially if nothing physically prevents the PT wood from moving as it dries.
Obed
 
   / Building a stick frame house in the woods in 90 days #1,964  
While the garage door track won't move they way they did it, it looks terrible. They should have spanned the two nearest trusses with angle iron ran parallel to the track, then put the cross angle iron between those two, directly above the hole at the end of the track, then hang straight down.
Good job on moving the dumpster.
 
   / Building a stick frame house in the woods in 90 days #1,965  
While the garage door track won't move they way they did it, it looks terrible. They should have spanned the two nearest trusses with angle iron ran parallel to the track, then put the cross angle iron between those two, directly above the hole at the end of the track, then hang straight down.
Good job on moving the dumpster.

The triangle effect that prevents the rails from moving sideways would be lost that way. The roller shafts just slip through tabbed holes
on the back of the door. If the rails are not maintained parallel with the triangle bracket arrangement they tend to spread a little from the weight of the door when open and the shaft can pull out of the inner tab hole causing the door to jam.
 
   / Building a stick frame house in the woods in 90 days
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Speaking of the concrete work, I am just getting ready to pour my detached garage and would really like for the finished product to look like the basement/garage on this project. If you know what I should be asking for (type of finish, sealer, etc.) I would greatly appreciate it. At this point, I would only know to say, 'I want them smooth as possible, and sealed.' I don't have a general contractor or anything like that (I am doing everything, but I don't want to risk the concrete work).
Hi Gudor, they did come back and put some sort of sealer on the surface the morning after each pour was done. I'll ask the builder if he knows what they used. As far as the type of finish, I'm only familiar with 2 types. Smooth or broom swept. My apron in front of the garage is broom swept.
 
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That is one severely bent drawbar. That is the brand new heavy duty one you just bought today? It looks like the linkage prevented it from bending even further.
Yep, picked it up from tsc at lunch time. I'll take it back to them today to see what they say. I think it would have bent further, but I stopped pulling the trailer further when I saw how easily it bent. I did not want to cause damage to the balls at the end of the links. It was a stout cat 2 draw bar. I'll see if the Deere dealer has one that is beefier still.

The blocks on the wall holding up the railing appear to serve 2 purposes - 1) get the railing far enough away from the wall to be accessible 2) provide additional support for the railing in the form of more screw surface. I don't know that I necessarily have a problem with them.
I realize blocks of some sort are needed, I just wish they would have centered the brackets on each, and I don't care much for the fancy profile they gave each block. But it will all get painted anyway and this is stairs to the basement, so no big deal I suppose.

Lastly, that garage door rail support system looks like a huge hack to me. I used the same sort of material for mine (galvinized pre drilled angle iron). Unless I am seeing things, it appears that they are already bending badly. For comparision, take a look at what we did in your shop. Have those bent significantly? Those garage doors are a LOT bigger and the rail supports are a lot longer.
I'll probably try what Ron suggested. It looks like there is enough track to bring in the point of attachment so that it is directly below the truss.
 
   / Building a stick frame house in the woods in 90 days #1,968  
Peter,
On the bent drawbar.
They are meant to remain with the holes pretty much vertical in use. A tongue on an implement or trailer that is a "U" with a pin through it and the bar keeps the bar from rotating much beyond horizontal.

Trailer hitch balls and chains without bracing the drawbar up to the center link attachment allow the bar to rotate so the thin dimension is vertical and it bends when you pull against it.

I did that once the first five minutes I tried to pull a trailer, which has a high tongue and ball socket, with a ball on a drawbar.

The towbar on the tractor is much stronger and more safe for pulling and dragging since it is below the center of gravity.
Ron
 
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Curious about the 6x6 stairs how did they tie the timbers to each other? I have followed your thread and think it will be very interesting to see how this settles up with the builder on the final draw/total package price.
 
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Peter,
Is the diffuser missing on one of the garage ceiling lights or did they use the wrong fixture?
Ron
 

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