Century Engines By Kukje

dancce · Apr 7, 2003

Instead of responding in the posts below, I thought it would be refreshing to start under another heading /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I have been searching for information about TYM to see who actually manufactures the engines for the tractors they sell.
(I'm just talking CUTS here.)

What I am coming up with so far, is that Kukje, who makes the Century and Branson tractors appears to be one of the few Korean tractor makers that make their own engines.
TYM appears to buy theirs from Kubota, Daedong, and John Deere.
Kukje does buy the Yanmar engine for the 45hp Century, but that ,from what I hear will soon change.

So, who does that leave as the only engine manufacturers in Korea for compact tractors? So far, I am coming up with only Kukje and Daedong.

If I am wrong or have missed something (which occassionally happens ), please fill me in.

Hey Mr. Woodbeef, kind sir and gentleman,
With your extensive library and knowledge--could you enlighten me . Or at least let me know if I am partially on the right track, or just plain all wet /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

dancce

DavesTractor · Apr 8, 2003

I is my understanding that TYM is a component tractor. They make very little of the tractor themselves. The engine in the CUTS are Kubota, the hydros are Eaton and the gear trans models are Iseki.

The Kukje engine is a good one, and built by Kukje and installed in the Branson/Century line, except for the 45HP which is a Yanmar. Very soon the Kukje built Cummins will be used in the CUT size Branson/Century's and the Komatsu will be used in the soon to be offered 30 series Bransons (50-60HP).

That's my two cents worth, and I probably deserve a penny back in change!

Woodbeef · Apr 8, 2003

Hey Dan,

It looks to me like you are correct on all points!!

As far as I know the only Korean CUT offerings are from Kukje,TYM,DaeDong,and LG.

19th_VA · Apr 8, 2003

Hey Dave,

So will the Kukje/Cummins engine be the same as the current engine in the 20 series?

DavesTractor · Apr 8, 2003

The engines will actually be different. Perhaps not better as we think a lot of the Kukje engine, but it is a completely different engine. I looked at the new engine at the World Ag Expo (we had the Branson booth and it wasn't far from Cummins booth). The Cummins people are real proud of it. It has been tested extensively and is as bulletproof as a small diesel can be.

5030 · Apr 8, 2003

Cummins can't build a good class 8 diesel truck engine and they can't meet emission standards for 2005, so I hope for your sake that their CUT engine is better. They can't even build a good class 6 engine. The blocks are splitting in some motorhome chassis. I not so fondly remember my either happy 855 formula engine. Below 50 degrees, it took about 1/2 can of either to get it started.

Daryl
Forage Services, L.P.

Woodbeef · Apr 8, 2003

The new EEA engines that Cummins is a partner in meet Teir2 in Europe,which from my understanding is tougher than the EPA regs. Look for them in the upcoming CIH and NH tractors.

5030 · Apr 8, 2003

I was being a little sarcastic, I was comparing truck engines to tractor engines even though Cummins uses their Magnum Diesel in International Row Crop Tractors. I never liked the old 855's other than you could rebuild them with a crescent wrench and a pair of vise grips. Oh and a 5 pound sledge hammer too. Cummins had better persue new ventures, they are about kabosh in the heavy duty diesel market.

Daryl
Forage Services, l.P.

Chipperman · Apr 8, 2003

Dave
Komatsu currently builds the Cummins B3.3 series engines (65-85hp)
Chipperman

DavesTractor · Apr 9, 2003

Chipperman, thanks for that info. That makes sense. Will they call that engine a Cummins or a Komatsu when it is installed in the 30 series tractors?

dancce · Apr 9, 2003

Thanks guys,

So let me see if I have got this straight:
In the Korean compact utility tractor market, we have:
1) Kukje--making Century and Branson--(Manufacture their own engines) Also build a larger cab tractor for John Deere?
2) DaeDong-- Kioti--(Make their own engine)
3) LG--Long Landtrac,Tafe,and ? (engines primarily from Mitsibishi)
4) YTM--Mahindra 10-series, Scorpion and ?--(engines from DaeDong,Kubota,and JD?)

I am probably missing some, but limiting to tractors sold in the US that I am aware of.

How about the so called, majors in the US: I know John Deere was/is Yanmar, but what about New Holland and Massey CUTS ?

dancce

DavesTractor · Apr 9, 2003

Massey CUTS are built by Iseki, so are the new Caterpillar CUTS. Nice machines.

Woodbeef · Apr 9, 2003

Hey Dan,

NH still is with Shibaura for CUTs.

All of the AGCO CUT offerings come from Iseki,no matter if they are red,orange or yellow.

Oh,ya I think you made a typo there,sir. It should be TYM,not YTM

Chipperman · Apr 10, 2003

Dave
My guess is they will be called Cummins
Chipperman

dancce · Apr 10, 2003

Sorry about the typo error. My Korean is getting a little rusty /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
TYM--Tong Yang Moolsan Co.,Ltd

Yea, I should have remembered about Shibaura and Iseki.
In fact,our shop did an engine rebuild recently on a 1710 Ford with Shibaura engine--extremely high parts prices!!!

I guess my mind was more on Korean than Japanese.
(I have been told I have CRS---I prefer to call it one track mind or focused on the moment) /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

dancce

Durwood · Sep 14, 2003

I had a guy pull up beside me in a parking lot the other day in his cummins powered Dodge pickup. That had to be the loudest engine in a truck that i've ever heard. No way i could put up with that racket very long. My brother-in-law drives Cummins powered Company Semis and he claims they drive them a million miles and never touch the motor unless a headgasket blows. He is sold on the Cummins, but i wouldn't want their pickup motor.

Chipperman · Sep 14, 2003

Durwood
The 2003 Dodge Cummins engines are very quiet nothing like the 2002 or older ones. I would not expect the Kukje Cummins to sound any different from the current Kukje Century or Branson engines.
Chipperman
PS: I have a 1997 3500 ram with the Cummins in it. It sure pulls great but it's also hard to here myself think at the same time.

YanmarFever · Sep 21, 2003

MY Dodge cummins high output engine sounds like a bucket of chestnuts with a microphone in it !!
But it will pull my trailer with 4 tractors on it down interstate 5 like there is no tomorrow! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Tractor Ernie <><

lamarbur · Sep 21, 2003

My Mahindra 4110 model has Kioti's Daedong engine, and remainder of tractor assembled by TYM.

EFC · Sep 22, 2003

Do you guys drive sitting on the hood or with your head sticking out the window? Inside the cab of my 2001 dodge is no louder than any other vehicle but it will drag everything else on the road sideways. When did men become so sensitive about loud noises..... Next thing you know they will make quiet rifles for hunting.