LD1
Epic Contributor
No, I am not wrong. I am 100% correct in everything I said with exception to perhaps the exact weights. But the concept is accurate. There is no need for a pi$$ing match here.No sir. Incorrect. Any weight centered on the rear axle regardless of source has zero effect on the load on the front axle/tires. Vertical weight added on the tractor chassis forward of the rear axle increases weight on the front tires. Vertical weight added on the chassis aft of the rear axle (like at the 3pt hitch) reduces the weight on the front axle/tires. That is the context of us discussing Ballast in the first place. Strength of Materials, Statics 101 problem -- levers and weights. Do the diagram.
LD1 , you said "it can only muster to lift 800# in the bucket before the rear wheels lift into the air." I cannot imagine where you got the idea it would (or could or might) lift the rear wheels off the ground (!!) Get serious.
FACT: A bare tractor with NO ballast cannot come anywhere close to lifting the full rated load capacity of the loader. (sure...some overly heavy tractors or large farm tractors maybe. But definitely not most smaller tractors and definitely not kubotas, which are light to begin with)
This naturally limits how much weight the front axle will see.....simply because you cannot lift max weight.
By adding ballast....you are INCREASING what you can lift up front. And that ALSO increases the weight transfer from rear to front. Double whammy.
Its not until you have ENOUGH counterweight to keep the rear down....and then significantly more....to actually start unloading the front axle.
And yes, a MX without any added ballast or counterweight.....800# is about all its gonna muster before the back of the tractor is no longer in the air. And even with loaded tires but nothing on the 3ph....the loader can still overpower the weight of the tractor.
There are plenty of MX owners on this forum that can likely verify exactly what I am saying