Wood stove rebuild 101-5.9

[Oldpath05]

I found it to be tooo hot to cut firewood, almost to hot to mess with firewood stove but has to be done. After two seasons on this used Shenandoah heater it's in need of replating, 16 gauge steel is to thin to start with IMO, wood stove should be atleast 1/8" thick so I'll get some 1/4" sheet steel and add it to the outside, also try to straighten out the door opening a little then add a new thicker baffle to the inside, cut the old one out and my torch and I didn't like it, popping spitting, wood stove steel dont cut good.

I have a new grate in on the bench in waiting, I'll also need some new rope gasket and firebrick, time I get done this stove is going to gain some weight, maybe to much for my small ATV trailer, which is how I loaded it out.

Thought I would take a roundabout short video with few pics July 1, 218 - YouTube

 

[ultrarunner]

Nice when you have the ability to extend the life of something... plus the satisfaction.

 

[CalG]

Oldpath

Be weary of plating the thicker material over the outside of the thinner.
The air gap will act as an insulator and run the temperature up considerably on that inner sheet.
Warping and burn out will follow. Not that burn out is an issue if the plating is welded in all around. But it makes for a bad looking interior. Ask me how I know? ;-)

I've run the same Fisher log wood stove for winter heat in the house for more than thirty years. Relined the bricks a few times. That steel is thick enough. It's been the lesser models out in the shop that have been the trouble. I'm in favor of a well lined firebrick box even if it does cut down size.

 

[Oldpath05]

The plates will be welded all around til sealed, maybe I'll cut a small section out since you like to scare me with a posable catastrophe in the making, wont be long before that 1/16' sheet will burn through anyways, I dont even think is quite 1/16, really thin. If not for fire brick the sheet metal would've already burnt through.

Picking up the steel tomorrow, didn't get to Kodiak Steel in time this afternoon so they could cut the steel I wanted, they dont have a shear and they're short handed this week like every place else, why does everyone want to take the 4th of July week off. I would've thought a good size steel distributor would have a shear guess not and didn't want to do anymore fiddle fading around on my few days off, decided to pay and go and come back, 35 mi one way, every place I know of is at least 30 mi from me, then to find a good steel selection is kinda important to alont with being able to pay with plastic.

 

[CalG]

The plates will be welded all around til sealed, maybe I'll cut a small section out since you like to scare me with a posable catastrophe in the making, wont be long before that 1/16' sheet will burn through anyways, I dont even think is quite 1/16, really thin. If not for fire brick the sheet metal would've already burnt through.

Picking up the steel tomorrow, didn't get to Kodiak Steel in time this afternoon so they could cut the steel I wanted, they dont have a shear and they're short handed this week like every place else, why does everyone want to take the 4th of July week off. I would've thought a good size steel distributor would have a shear guess not and didn't want to do anymore fiddle fading around on my few days off, decided to pay and go and come back, 35 mi one way, every place I know of is at least 30 mi from me, then to find a good steel selection is kinda important to alont with being able to pay with plastic.

It does seem that the stuff you actually need is always a drive.

The junk and crap are available nearby. ;-)

I'm lucky, there are two metal shops in town (15 min) One does 1/8" and up
The other does the "sheet metal". Seems like the sheet metal fellow works when he feels like. But I respect that.

Sure gonna miss 'em when they are gone.

 

[Oldpath05]

Pick the steel up today and all the brick bolts and gasket, after I get done crying over the cost I'll start putting the wood stove back together. The office girl said because of the US tariffs the steel is more costly now. I dont know if she was slamming Trump or the steel I got would've only cost $100.00 instead of $436.83. She couldn't or wouldn't tell me how much the cutting charge was, she said it's all figured in at the cost of steel, had to have it cut down so it wouldn't be any longer than 5' so's to fit in my SUV. She said lot of their steel comes in 20' lengths and some 10', a good place to take a trailer.

 

[Groo]

Don't you just love how everyone is using tarrifs as an excuse to send prices throught the roof. First off; steel used in the US was 95% US made before the tarrifs, so why is anything jumping up near the tarrif amount? Lets skip that and then look at the finished price vs. steel costs. Why does a product price go up 10% when the cost of the raw steel goes up 10%. I am paying way over the bulk price of steel for that product the the point where actual steel cost is probably less than 25% of overall price. Given that ONLY the 25% went up maybe 10%, why did the whole prive jump up 10% and not 2.5%? and if you really look at what is going on, it should have jumped up less than 1%
Lost of people way overplaying the small amount of chaos in the market.

 

[Oldpath05]

I think a alot of my steel cost was in cutting charges, setting up track to flame cut a 1/4x4x8 sheet in half then make it 27" wide cant be as cheap as a shear.

Made a start on the stove this afternoon with two 1/4x 3"x 21" strips on the inside front, that's so's there will be no interference from the door closing, the rest will go on the outside and will be easier. Nothing like welding with a mirror especially when the stove is so thin, I kept burning threw .030 wire but I got 3" long tack welds on it. First I straighten the sides a little with a screw jack, that part worked pretty good

 

[westcliffe01]

At my local steel outlet Alro Online Store, Buy Metals, Industrial, Plastics Products Online a sheet of 10ga steel (0.135") 5'x10' (50 square feet worth) would cost $272.69 with me doing the pickup. The same thickness material as a 4'x8' sheet would be $172 and that would fit in the back of the truck for sure.

If you ever get steel cut, make sure that you take all the pieces from the original sheet since they are basically charging you for the full sheet + cutting charges.

 

[Oldpath05]

At my local steel outlet Alro Online Store, Buy Metals, Industrial, Plastics Products Online a sheet of 10ga steel (0.135") 5'x10' (50 square feet worth) would cost $272.69 with me doing the pickup. The same thickness material as a 4'x8' sheet would be $172 and that would fit in the back of the truck for sure.

If you ever get steel cut, make sure that you take all the pieces from the original sheet since they are basically charging you for the full sheet + cutting charges.

Guess I should've asked that question, thought steel distributors cut off what people want then sell what they cut off.