Urgent help needed with ford 8n

[josephdaniel]

Recently (as in two years ago) we acquired a ford 8n tractor with a front mount distributor. Today I finally decided that I would like to do a tune up on it since the oil looked like it was 30 years old as did the coil points plugs and gas. So I replace and set the points put on a new condenser and coil fix some electrical stuffs new plugs and finally I get to changing the oil I get the cap off and along with a bunch of black old oil comes out allot of large metal shards they look like they are from a cylinder sleeve but what would cause a cylinder sleeve to shatter completely? and how would I go about replacing the cylinder sleeves and what ever else needs replacing?

 

[Willl]

It is possible the top lip of the sleeve broke and the sleeve moved down enough for the crank to hit giving you the pieces you found.

 

[josephdaniel]

Thanks for the quick reply, How hard is it to replce the sleves provided i have the right tools? and is there anything else I should do while it is open?

 

[Willl]

It's going to be almost a total rebuild. Can't put a band-aid on this one.

 

[josephdaniel]

OH boy this sounds like it should be fun!:confused2: Gotta get it done sometime and there are 30 acres of grass that needs to be mowed...
CCan I run it like this I know I probably shouldn't...

 

[Willl]

Can I run it like this I know I probably shouldn't...

It's only going to get worse. If it goes to far, you won't be able to rebuild it. It'll be scrap metal.

 

[Willl]

Check out this thread....

How NOT to Install Dry Cylinder Sleeves

 

[Soundguy]

first find out what you are deailing with. is there enough metal in there to be a full sleeve?

can you se thru the oil drian and see a dropepd sleeve?

may sound weird.. but I have seen sleeves dropped, and someone flushed the oil pan, and pulle dthe head and put a ne sleeve in and didn't clean the pan when putting the rod and piston back in.

that's if you are lucky.. otherwise you will be dropping the pan ( take front bolster / axle off) and the head.

might as well check em all...

might as well do bearings. and fornt and rear mains...

 

[josephdaniel]

How m uch would it cost a shop to replace all of the sleeves and possibly the bearings?

 

[Soundguy]

shop charges on a prepaired block vary.. i've seen from 35-90$ per hole all depending ont he prep work and if anye boring is needed .. etc. for an N block.. might as well have a valve job done on her if the block is in the machine shop.. etc. check cam clearance.. it runs in parent bore.. and inserts can be installed.