The Advice We Give

   / The Advice We Give #1  

chim

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Lancaster County, PA
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Kubota L4240, Ford 1210
I find myself trying to convince anyone looking for a tractor that they need what I have or they'll be unhappy. It is a big but honest mistake. Most of us have spent may years and perhaps many dollars going through different machines finding what works perfectly - for us and on our properties. The problem with the insights we offer is that the person we offer it to doesn't live at our house. There are lots of discussions on tractors vs. zero turns, brands, horsepower requirements, etc. One of the things my Grandad told me is that any tool made to do more than one thing doesn't necessarily do anything extremely well. I have taken a lot of his wise advice. May have strayed a bit by choosing a tractor instead of different machines, but I'm very fond of the flexibility. Here's where I am after living on this property for 30 years:

* Used open station (1989-2012) and until then couldn't understand why the girly men needed cabs.

* In 2012 I became a girly man when I built a heated cab for the L3200.

* Last year it got even worse. It wasn't enough to have heat in Winter. Now A/C for the hot days of Summer seem like a great idea.

* Grooved R4's are better all-around tires than the R1's and turfs I've had. Full disclosure - the turfs were on a 2WD tractor.

* Had a belly mower on my first tractor and didn't like it.

* Tried a Zero Turn and didn't like it.

* Tried a Ferris and didn't like it.

* Rear finish mowers rule.

* Your RFM isn't wide enough till there's one small spot that gets scalped when you're not paying attention. Three or more spots? Reduce the cutting width by at least 6".

* Never keep the loader on unless you need to use it for something.

* If the tractor you want is too tall, trim the trees and build a larger shed.

* There is an upper limit to tractor size and HP for a given application, but it's a good bit higher than most people think it is.

* There's no such thing as overkill when doing auxiliary lighting. (Remember when MTV played music videos and their slogan was "Too much is never enough"?)

* Bought a 3-point quick hitch and never got around to using it. The smaller implements aren't too difficult to wrestle with. The larger implements go on the larger tractor and it has telescoping lift arms and stabilizers. Probably use it for some ill-conceived front SSQA project one day.

* Front mounted snow plows are the best snow removal tool. (Exception in first sentence below)

* A snowblower is a lot of fun, but unless there's absolute lack of somewhere to push the snow, it isn't the right tool for snow removal if time is of the essence. They're awful if you need to re-blow the snow a few times to get it all the way off the parking lot.

* A wife with a poor memory may not be a bad thing. Mine just reminded me I said I'd sell the L3200 when we bought the L4240 last December. Thankfully, she still hasn't recalled a similar deal that the Ford would go when we got the B7500 in '02.

* Buy a couple lynch pins each time you get into Tractor Supply. Those little buggers have a way of escaping from whatever storage spot you provide for them.

There ya go. Pure honest and accurate advice for anyone who lives at my house. Could be different for the next door neighbor:)
 
   / The Advice We Give #2  
Snow removal isn’t one of my chores or I’d definitely have a cab machine. I’m not a huge fan of cabs for summer time work. I’ve had a dozen or more mowing instruments ranging from a 42” riding mower to a 72” RFM and my 72” Grasshopper ZTR is by far the best of of them all.
 
   / The Advice We Give #3  
Different strokes for different folks. I remove snow from my large yard, mile long gravel driveway and mailbox area. It gets hot but it's bone dry in the summer. I've tried a cabbed tractor. DID NOT like it - not even one little bit. I prefer open station - year round. I've got Eddie Bauer down if it gets really cold. Iced tea in the summer.

I might change my mind if I had to use a bush hog a whole lot. I've never needed a bush hog.

Different strokes................
 
   / The Advice We Give #4  
Different strokes for different folks. I remove snow from my large yard, mile long gravel driveway and mailbox area. It gets hot but it's bone dry in the summer. I've tried a cabbed tractor. DID NOT like it - not even one little bit. I prefer open station - year round. I've got Eddie Bauer down if it gets really cold. Iced tea in the summer.

I might change my mind if I had to use a bush hog a whole lot. I've never needed a bush hog.

Different strokes................

A simple and cheap sunshade makes a world of difference for summer time work. I’m $500 or more poorer from knocking the glass out of a cabbed skid steer twice. I don’t like working from one either. But if I was working in the cold I’d have a change of heart.
 
   / The Advice We Give #5  
* Used open station (1989-2012) and until then couldn't understand why the girly men needed cabs. Agree

* In 2012 I became a girly man when I built a heated cab for the L3200. 2015 for me.

* Last year it got even worse. It wasn't enough to have heat in Winter. Now A/C for the hot days of Summer seem like a great idea.
Factory cab, came with heat and A/C. Wonderful!

* Grooved R4's are better all-around tires than the R1's and turfs I've had. Full disclosure - the turfs were on a 2WD tractor. Couldn't say, never run anything but R1's, never needed to.

* Had a belly mower on my first tractor and didn't like it. Never had one. Use the tractor for too many things, didn't want to deal with on/off all the time.

* Tried a Zero Turn and didn't like it. Tried my brother's, didn't care for it.

* Tried a Ferris and didn't like it.

* Rear finish mowers rule. I'm sure happy with mine!

* Your RFM isn't wide enough till there's one small spot that gets scalped when you're not paying attention. Three or more spots? Reduce the cutting width by at least 6".

* Never keep the loader on unless you need to use it for something. Hasn't been my experience. I do raise it occasionally to get close. Again, don't want to deal with the on/off all the time.

* If the tractor you want is too tall, trim the trees and build a larger shed. Yup.

* There is an upper limit to tractor size and HP for a given application, but it's a good bit higher than most people think it is. Probably. Always been happy in the 25HP bracket on my 4 acres

* There's no such thing as overkill when doing auxiliary lighting. (Remember when MTV played music videos and their slogan was "Too much is never enough"?) Agree, especially as I get older.

* Bought a 3-point quick hitch and never got around to using it. The smaller implements aren't too difficult to wrestle with. The larger implements go on the larger tractor and it has telescoping lift arms and stabilizers. Probably use it for some ill-conceived front SSQA project one day.Never saw the point myself. I can hook up anything I own in under 5 minutes.

* Front mounted snow plows are the best snow removal tool. (Exception in first sentence below) On a truck maybe. But eventually you have to deal with banks. A blower you move it once and you're done.

* A snowblower is a lot of fun, but unless there's absolute lack of somewhere to push the snow, it isn't the right tool for snow removal if time is of the essence. They're awful if you need to re-blow the snow a few times to get it all the way off the parking lot. I imagine that's true, but I don't do parking lots, so not an issue.

* A wife with a poor memory may not be a bad thing. Mine just reminded me I said I'd sell the L3200 when we bought the L4240 last December. Thankfully, she still hasn't recalled a similar deal that the Ford would go when we got the B7500 in '02. Couldn't say, my wife has a phenomenal memory. Why, she can remember things that never even happened!

* Buy a couple lynch pins each time you get into Tractor Supply. Those little buggers have a way of escaping from whatever storage spot you provide for them. Absolute truth. They have tiny little legs and wander off in the dark.

There ya go. Pure honest and accurate advice for anyone who lives at my house. Could be different for the next door neighbor:)


Annotated. (Comments inside the quote apparently confuse the program, had to add this so it'd post)
 
   / The Advice We Give #6  
My dad used to think cabs wasn't needed. After all the mowing we did over the summer, he now wishes he had a cab. My cab, with AC allowed me to keep mowing in the heat and dust. So, call me a girly man, yet I'm a comfortable girly man.
 
   / The Advice We Give #7  
I 'advise' based on my very limited experience. I'd never owned a diesel or even sat on a tractor until a little over a year ago. One thing I've found is that most all tractors in my small size are nearly identical except for color (and price). I don't know anything about bigger machines, so I rarely comment other than to suggest going color blind and looking at other brands.

I don't do snow or enough work in cold or heat to comment on cab or not.

The task vs. machinery debates get interesting sometimes, but the buy/rent/hire and BH/Mini bits get old after a while.

I don't know trucks, never owned anything but a car, so I stay out of those.
 
   / The Advice We Give #8  
Here’s an addendum:
Cabs suck if you have to work under tree branches...until you realize that branch smacking the glass was going to hit you in the face. A good powered pole saw does wonders with low branches.

Vertical muffler stacks really suck if you work under tree branches.
 
   / The Advice We Give #9  
In a lot of cases a cab is more than just a pleasure. If you are doing something that raises a lot of dust - it is a serious health matter. I NEVER see the big Ag tractors cabless. In fact, when they are disking those enormous wheat fields - you seldom see the tractor. On a calm day you will see the dust rising high in the sky - miles & miles before getting to the actual tractor. I've often wondered how they are able to disk straight lines or follow the contours. Many are completely & continuously "lost" in a gigantic cloud.

About four years ago I DID put a canopy on the tractor. Too much sun on the 'ol bald head can give me a headache. I've had to "limb" the driveway though. The canopy on the raised roll bar will knock the snow on low hanging branches right down on me.
 
   / The Advice We Give #10  
I'll add a clarification.

Almost always, comments made here are "opinions" not "advice".

We can only logically offer "advice" to a situation that we fully understand and have all the facts. That's nearly impossible here. So,,, it becomes "opinions". :)
 

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