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   / Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong #15,061  
Please allow me to post your quote from another thread about the 5.4 engine. The same can be said about the lighter pickups.

A 5.4 was the bottom end engine for trucks of that day. If you wanted more power it was available. What’s your point?
 
   / Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong #15,062  
Looks like it might have been a roll-back dumpster hauler? The bridge did a number on the truck! And the bridge barely looks scratched (except the sign).

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   / Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong #15,063  
I’m not sure how you could do this unless you loaded it on rollers?
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   / Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong #15,064  
A 5.4 was the bottom end engine for trucks of that day. If you wanted more power it was available. What’s your point?
My point was that the same bottom end sized trucks applied to the era. That doesn't change the fact that a 1/2 ton today can have a heavier frame, suspension, running gear, brakes, and other parts than that of a 3/4 ton from years ago.
 
   / Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong #15,065  
I’m not sure how you could do this unless you loaded it on rollers?
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Those plastic bed liners are slippery! I guess a Toyota V8 has enough oomph to get the stack sliding....

Straps, dum dums. Now you gotta hand re-load the pile, and buy a new tailgate.
 
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My point was that the same bottom end sized trucks applied to the era. That doesn't change the fact that a 1/2 ton today can have a heavier frame, suspension, running gear, brakes, and other parts than that of a 3/4 ton from years ago.

Except they don’t. A half ton truck has gotten brake upgrades in the last few years but the rest of the truck hasn’t changed much.
 
   / Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong #15,067  
'Tachograph' is a recorder that makes a log of speed etc for the traffic cop to review?

500 lb payload! That's what the WWII Jeeps were rated.
Yes, exactly what I meant. I believe you guys may call it something else in the US. E-logs, right?
 
   / Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong #15,068  
Those plastic bed liners are slippery! I guess a Toyota V8 has enough oomph to get the stack sliding....

Straps, dum dums. Now you gotta hand re-load the pile, and buy a new tailgate.
Plastic bed liners are very slippery. OSB is also very slippery. Bad combo without adequate straps. Doesn't surprise me at all to see this result. Not to mention the very short bed length of that Toyota which had a lot of the load behind the axle and didn't take much movement to put COG behind the tailgate. That amount of OSB is probably far over the cargo capacity of that truck too. Someone made a series of bad decisions and it will be costly.

Rob
 
   / Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong #15,069  
When you guys refer to 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton, etc, on a pickup truck, is that referring to the payload on the bed?

Pickups with "150" or "1500" are typically "half-ton" (F150, Ram 1500, Chevrolet/GMC 1500); "250" or "2500" are "three-quarter ton"; "350" or "3500" are "one-ton" (450/4500 - "ton and a half"; not sure what 550/5500 are? two-ton?).

As previously stated these are nominal cargo capacities from the distant past when trucks came in a single configuration.

These days, there are certain things that can be inferred by the tonnage. 3/4 & 1 ton trucks have full-floating rear axles (apparently some new F150's do too now). 1/2 ton's have higher and higher capacities now but are typically set up for more of a car-like ride, so when loaded down they're more likely to "feel" the cargo. One-ton trucks may be equipped with dual rear wheels (DRW); 1/2 & 3/4 will not. 1.5+ ton trucks don't come in SRW (single rear wheels) from the factory (USA at least). 3/4 ton is a variable mixture of half-ton and one-ton features -- typically a softer ride and slightly lower capacity as a result (no DRW).

TL;DR - If someone quotes a bunch of capacity numbers these days, it would be almost impossible to pin down the "ton" of the truck without being able to compare to other trucks made by that manufacturer - and then it would just be an educated guess.
 
   / Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong #15,070  
Back to the broken frame. I had a 97 F150. It had the tow package. I got it used. It had a 2 5/16 ball on the hitch. I removed it and installed a 2". After 5 years of heavy use, and I did overload it a lot hauling stuff to build a house, I had a horse trailer on it. Drove 80 miles to a vet with horse, drove back, unloaded horse. When I went to unhook the trailer, the back of the truck just kept going up. The frame on the truck had broken almost in to on both sides. Just where the rubber bumper from the bed was hitting the frame. It most likely had been cracked for years. Only the top section of the frame stopped it from coming completely into. I jacked the middle back up, unhooked the trailer and pulled it out of the way. With the middle jacked up, the crack in the frame closed up. A friend welded it with plates. Drove it another few years. Lucky, I didn't show up on the news with a wrecked truck and trailer with dead horse.
 
 
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