Separate Brakes...whats the point..???

[ttstraw]

Ok folks I'm going to throw this question out there for some of your ideas.

Any tractor with a separate right and left brake with the hydro pedal right beside it or at least on the same side of the tractor. How does one get the functionality of having those separate brakes when the same foot that makes it go is the same one that would hold the needed brake pedal down to make that sharp turn or put resistance on the spinning tire (I know we have diff lock for that)? It sort of defeats the purpose of having the ability to lock up one rear tire to assist the turn.

I really don't have the need to do this but I had to chuckle when I saw it and thought hhhmmm how does one do this.

Has anyone ever done this on a hyrdo machine?

Tom

 

[B2400]

The design engineer has 2 right feet?! ( as opposed to those of us who can't dance and have 2 left feet)!! I never understood the value in it either but I suppose if you have enough dexterity in your right foot/leg you could make it work!

 

[jas67]

I've always wondered the same thing.
On my B7100HST, I guess you could attach a hand lever to the treadle.
I'd have to put a hole in the floor of my B7610 to do that

 

[TripleR]

I am just guessing, but it may be cheaper to have one design that can be used with either HST or a geared tractor.

 

[kevinj]

It works fine when the cruise is set However I rarely need to brake steer since I am not a farmer.

 

[ttstraw]

I thought about trying it with the cruise or speed control on just to see it would work, thats about the only way I can think to do it without playing twisted on the tractor. I did ask the dealer about it and he said that they tell Kubota every year to move the brakes pedals to the left side because of this.

 

[TripleR]

I thought about trying it with the cruise or speed control on just to see it would work, thats about the only way I can think to do it without playing twisted on the tractor. I did ask the dealer about it and he said that they tell Kubota every year to move the brakes pedals to the left side because of this.

I sure hope they don't move the brake to the left as I also have a John Deere 2305 with the brake on the left and absolutely hate it. My father in law put his John Deere into about ten feet of water over brake pedal confusion. Fortunately he was able to swim away, but he was really lucky.

 

[Firefighter Kubota]

I sure hope they don't move the brake to the left as I also have a John Deere 2305 with the brake on the left and absolutely hate it. My father in law put his John Deere into about ten feet of water over brake pedal confusion. Fortunately he was able to swim away, but he was really lucky.

I always knew deeres liked to swim..

 

[Duffster]

If yor going to have a right foot operated hydro then the brake belong on the left like a CNH

 

[kevinj]

If yor going to have a right foot operated hydro then the brake belong on the left like a CNH

Its been a few years but I think the backhoes had left foot brake as the throttle was right foot. It is a learning curve though.

 

[Duffster]

Its been a few years but I think the backhoes had left foot brake as the throttle was right foot. It is a learning curve though.

That is the way our backhoe is also

 

[ttstraw]

I know this is going to sound odd but to me the way the hydro/brake/clutch is set up on the 2920 is right foot is brakes and go pedal, left foot the clutch. Logic tells me that a better config would be go pedal and clutch right foot and brakes left foot. Reason I say this is in a hydro config there is no reason to have your foot on the go pedal and clutch at the same time but there are times when go pedal and brake at the same time would come in handy. Now with that said, it would take some getting used to for sure.

 

[BXpanded]

Manufacturers don't usually "move" standard controls that might affect safety. Anybody remember the Audi 5000 "uncontrolled acceleration" fiasco from several years ago? It was splashed all over the "National Enquirer" type TV shows. That series of accidents resulted from just a very slightly different than usual location of the pedals.
In you car: Right foot; Go and Brake. Left foot; clutch. Instictively you hit the right one in an urgent situation. Move 'em and who knows what you'll hit???

 

[Duffster]

Manufacturers don't usually "move" standard controls that might affect safety. Anybody remember the Audi 5000 "uncontrolled acceleration" fiasco from several years ago? It was splashed all over the "National Enquirer" type TV shows. That series of accidents resulted from just a very slightly different than usual location of the pedals.
In you car: Right foot; Go and Brake. Left foot; clutch. Instictively you hit the right one in an urgent situation. Move 'em and who knows what you'll hit???

I see no real safety issue with putting the brake pedals on the left side (where they belong IMO)

A good operator can accommodate such changes.

Do we hear of it being a problem on a CNH tractor?

 

[TripleR]

I see no real safety issue with putting the brake pedals on the left side (where they belong IMO)

A good operator can accommodate such changes.

Do we hear of it being a problem on a CNH tractor?

There was a time when some motorcycle manufacturers, primarily foreign had the shift on right side and the brake on the left. In the seventies, due to safety considerations standardized left foot shift and right foot braking took place, so now all motorcycles are this way.

There may very well not be a "problem" if one only operates a certain type of machine, but if you go from one to the other such as between my Kubota and John Deere, there will be problems as not all of us are apparently "good operators" by your definition. I do know of accident caused by the brake and HST locations being different.

 

[LBrown59]

I sure hope they don't move the brake to the left as I also have a John Deere 2305 with the brake on the left and absolutely hate it. My father in law put his John Deere into about ten feet of water over brake pedal confusion. Fortunately he was able to swim away, but he was really lucky.
Nothing like a swim petal.

I always knew deeres liked to swim..

I didn't know JDs had a swimming mode.

 

[Duffster]

I do know of accident caused by the brake and HST locations being different.

How exactly does that happen?

 

[number two]

Remember the older John Deere tractors with the brake pedals on their respective sides and the hand clutch lever on the right?Not too hard to learn!

 

[ccsial]

I don't need this feature so I have not tried this but I think it would work if you have the manual cruise control like my L3400.

Push the cruise to the speed you want. Then don't use the go pedal but use the clutch to stop and start. If you need frequent reversing this wouldn't work well.

 

[aggiehortguy91]

All of the geared tractors I've ever run have a foot feed and split brakes on the right. It is just the way it is done (but there are exceptions). If you want to use the split brakes, you have to use the hand feed for the throttle. I have often wished that I had a similar setup on my BX, but the wheelbase is so short that I doubt the split brakes would be very effective.