Sammy the Snapper, on the Move

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Richard

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A year, perhaps almost two years ago... my neighbors helper brought to our house to show my wife, what turned out to be a baby snapping turtle.

She, in her ever so thoughtful ways, had him put it into our recirculating pond right behind the house. The one that has frogs (no fish) and the one the dogs walk into to cool themselves down....as much as we tell them to get out.

We've been trying to catch the growing turtle to get it out of the pond, so far, with no luck.

Down the field a bit is a dry pond. Never has water until/unless it rains, then it goes to about ankle or ankle "+" deep... and when rain stops, will slowly dry up over a couple days.


This morning, taking two dogs out, Pyrnese in one hand, Border Collie in other, both on leashes, one in each hand. Guess what I see walking across the grass but, Sammy the Snapper. He's inching his way from the baby pond behind the house, to the Luxury Pond in the field (little does he know it dries up pretty quickly!)

Backhoe is right there....if only I could grab his tail, toss him into bucket, I could keep him on ice while I finish taking dogs out but alas, that is not to be the case. Both dogs get VERY interested in this new species they've never seen and I'll just leave it at the excited Border Collie can be a handful and the Pyrnese is easily twice his size so I was busy.

Finished their walk, hurried back to house, put them in their room, got shovel, boots....went back to pond and Sammy the Snapper was gone. He's evidently made it to the water and now I have no idea where he is.

The pond has a flat bottom full of grass that I cut pretty short so there is nothing in there that he can hide under, beside, around....nothing. Right now, his only cover is water.

Left shovel by pond and now I just wait.

My intent is to find him, scoop him up, dump him into backhoe bucket and then drive him down to the "community pond" (the full blown lake from where he originated).

We'll see....
 
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Good luck. I've got a couple of big snappers in my pond. This year one managed to take down a big blue heron. It was pretty ugly.
 
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Hmmm....wife said it was more like 10 years ago!

My how time flies. He is about six inches across his back if that is any indication. (I've no idea how fast they grow)
 
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He'll bury himself in the mud when the pond dries up, if he wants to go to the lake he'll find the way.
 
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I am generally a "Live and Let Live" kind of guy, but I would NOT want a snapping turtle of that size in a pond where pets or children swim. It might be worth finding out what the community thinks of having the turtle relocated to the community pond. If pets or children swim in THAT pond, it would be the same issue.

I would also NOT attempt any sort of manual handling of a large snapper, such as grapping its tail. Those things do NOT let go!

Personally, I would just shoot it.
 
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I am generally a "Live and Let Live" kind of guy, but I would NOT want a snapping turtle of that size in a pond where pets or children swim. It might be worth finding out what the community thinks of having the turtle relocated to the community pond. If pets or children swim in THAT pond, it would be the same issue.

I would also NOT attempt any sort of manual handling of a large snapper, such as grapping its tail. Those things do NOT let go!

Personally, I would just shoot it.
Their necks are also longer than you realize... don't ask me how I know that. ;)
 
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I grew up on a lake. Many huge snapping turtles, among other species. I've gone near plenty of them and they are never aggressive. Only when poked or stepped on. The ones we'd see while snorkeling would turn and swim away if they saw you.
 
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Their necks are also longer than you realize... don't ask me how I know that. ;)
If you still have all your fingers, then it must have been a smaller one. :)

It also takes them forever to be "dead" in the sense that they will stop trying to bite things. I shot one right in the head once. Then I came back a good while later and poked it in the nose with a long stick before picking it up to bury it. I'll be danged if that thing didn't grab ahold of the stick!

I think their bodies are designed to tolerate being underwater for a long time, so they can survive on a small quantity of oxygen. Even if the brain is destroyed, the body reflexes continue to operate for quite some time.
 
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^^^
I was driving down a rural road during mating season and came across a turtle lying on the centerline with it's legs in the air; there's no way that it got that way alone. :( It had been there a while and was dried out so I grabbed a back pack to use as a buffer, and picked it up to carry it to water. It's a good thing that I hadn't picked it up bared handed or they'd be calling me "one-thumb."
 
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I grew up on a lake. Many huge snapping turtles, among other species. I've gone near plenty of them and they are never aggressive. Only when poked or stepped on. The ones we'd see while snorkeling would turn and swim away if they saw you.
I would agree that they aren't naturally aggressive toward humans. The distinction might not seem so important if an adult or child accidentally steps on one.

Also, I believe they would be aggressive towards smallish pets. A large snapper will pull an adult goose underwater. I have to believe that a similar sized dog would be viewed as food.
 

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