Rail roads and their tracks.

   / Rail roads and their tracks.
  • Thread Starter
#1,901  
Here is a dated film about the Challenger series engines which are the "little" brothers to the big boy. The maintence required to keep these steam engines going never ceases to amaze me.
 
Last edited:
   / Rail roads and their tracks. #1,902  
Here is a dated film about the Challenger series engines which are the "little" brothers to the big boy. The maintence required to keep these steam engines going never ceases to amaze me.
Could you imagine the size of the DPF that would be required today on it? :rolleyes:
 
   / Rail roads and their tracks.
  • Thread Starter
#1,904  
T1 Trust displays progress in building new steam locomotive


Long black bolier and related parts of steam locomotive under construction, mounted on wheels for highway movement
The combined cab, boiler shell, and prow of T1 Trust locomotive 5550 is displayed in Harrisburg, Pa. (Dan Cupper)

HARRISBURG, Pa. — In the first public showing of the combined cab, boiler shell, and prow of its new streamlined steam engine, No. 5550, the Pennsylvania Railroad T1 Steam Locomotive Trust displayed its progress on a project whose backers hope to see it running by 2030.
The Trust trucked the 30-ton assembly 1,200 miles from its fabrication site in St. Louis to a Harrisburg hotel where the Pennsylvania Railroad Technical & Historical Society is holding its annual convention this weekend.
The Trust’s goal is to create a new member of the iconic 52-engine fleet of PRR T1-class 4-4-4-4 high-speed passenger locomotives, all of which were scrapped [see “Pennsy T1 comes to life in a St. Louis shop,” Trains News Wire, March 30, 2018]. Trust General Manager Jason Johnson reported that the group has raised $1.715 million to date and the engine is 39% complete, as measured by weight of components.
Completed, the engine will weigh 1 million pounds and the tender 200,000 pounds.
Front of locomotive being built next to banner with picture of complete engine
The nose of No. 5550 stands next to a banner showing a completed T1. (Dan Cupper)
The Trust has shown parts of the locomotive, such as a keystone numberplate, an 80-inch-diameter driving wheel, the nose, and the cab, at previous society conferences. But the sheer bulk and appearance of the work-in-progress assembly were a stunning departure from past meetings.
The original PRR T1 fleet consisted of two prototypes, Nos. 6110-6111, built by Baldwin Locomotive Works in 1942, and 50 production engines built in 1945-46, half by Baldwin (Nos. 5500-5524) and half by PRR’s Altoona (Pa.) Works (Nos. 5525-5549). Thus the Trust’s decision to number its engine 5550, which would have been the next in the series. No. 5549 was the last locomotive completed at Altoona of about 6,800 steam and electric engines built there since 1866.
The styling, including a distinctive wind-splitter nose that presaged BLW’s sharknose road diesel design, was the creation of famed industrial designer Raymond Loewy.
Johnson reported that four 80-inch-diameter drivers have been cast, with the remaining four in production.
Needed variations from the original PRR design include:
— Oil firing instead of coal.
— An all-welded boiler instead of riveted.
— A modern 26 brake system.
— The ability to MU with diesels.
— A wheel-slip alarm.
As to the question of where to run No. 5550, Johnson said economics dictate that it be on short lines and regionals at mostly 25 to 40 mph. It would be technically possible to run on main lines “if we had coaches and our own insurance,” he said, but costs would eat up nearly all revenue.
Man standing next to partially built locomotive talking to spectators
T1 Trust General Manager Jason Johnson discusses the project with attendees at the Pennsylvania Railroad Technical & Historical Society convention. (Dan Cupper)
The next hurdle, Johnson said, will be to build the 68-foot-long frame, which will comprise both fabricated and welded parts. The originals were one-piece cast frames with all four cylinders integral to the casting. While it’s technically possible to duplicate that feat today, Johnson said, the Trust can save time and money by dividing the job into “10-20-30-40 parts.” Otherwise, the task would cost three to five times more. This and other tasks will be accomplished with the help of Computer-Aided Design and 3-D modeling, tools that didn’t exist for Baldwin and PRR.
Scott McGill, the Trust ‘s chief mechanical officer, described the work needed to get to this stage. He spent the equivalent of 41 eight-hour days in the Pennsylvania State Archives, copying and scanning 1,754 T1 blueprints out of an estimated 450,000 in the state’s holdings, which were saved from PRR’s Harrisburg roundhouse. The T1s were largely based here, leading PRR’s Blue Ribbon Fleet, including the Broadway Limited to Chicago and Spirit of St. Louis to St. Louis. The Trust’s blueprints represent 99% of those needed, lacking only 14 drawings for a complete set.
The Trust has purchased a former PRR tender that is similar to the massive 16-wheel Class 180P84 tenders used behind the original T1s, and will spend an estimated $200,000 to streamline it and otherwise make it suitable. This saved the group at least $3 million over the cost of building a new tender.
The Trust got its start in 2017 when Missouri physician and longtime PRR fan Brad Noble read about the British success in building a new version of a “lost” steam-locomotive class, the A1 Tornado. He wondered what would happen if a billionaire like Bill Gates decided to back such a project.
Partially completed locomotive with headlight illuminated
The partially completed T1 at night. (Dan Cupper)
The original T1s were designed to run at well over 100 mph and, in a troubleshooting mission, the Franklin Railway Supply Co. actually clocked one unofficially at 141 mph. The emergence of the Tornado got Noble to wondering if it were possible to establish a new verifiable world speed record for steam, set at 126 mph in 1938 by London & North Eastern Railway A4-class 4-6-2 engine No. 4468, Mallard.
Through a number of contacts, he approached the Federal Railroad Administration, which coached him and colleagues on requirements and specifications needed to build a new locomotive in the post-steam era. He characterized FRA as both polite and highly supportive. Creation of a website and fundraising mechanism soon followed.
Standing in the hotel parking lot amid scores of photographers and the curious, Noble said, “I am grateful to be part of such an epic endeavor. Yes, I said epic.”
The project will again be on display Sunday, May 15, at the Harrisburg-Hershey Sheraton, 4650 Lindle Road in Harrisburg.
More information on the T1 Trust is available at its website; more on the Pennsylvania Railroad Technical & Historical Society is available here.
 
   / Rail roads and their tracks. #1,905  
My grandfather worked at Baldwin Locomotive during WW-II and beyond.
 
   / Rail roads and their tracks. #1,906  
So I was looking at Google earth maps at some of my farm fields in my little hometown this morning and came across something very interesting. A derailment.
Little background: about 1 year ago, East Penn (my local RR) had a kind of hushed derailment. They shut down Route 100 between Cossart Road and Center Meeting Road for quite a while. I did not know at the time why. Now I realize the amount & extent of equipment that was assembled to clean up the derailment.

I’m working on posting a great picture, but everytime I try, it says “file or photo is too large”

1653164739532.jpeg
 
Last edited:
   / Rail roads and their tracks. #1,907  
So I was looking at Google earth maps at some of my farm fields in my little hometown this morning and came across something very interesting. A derailment.
Little background: about 2 years ago, East Penn (my local RR) had a kind of hushed derailment. They shut down Route 100 between Cossart Road and Center Meeting Road for quite a while. I did not know at the time why. Now I realize the amount & extent of equipment that was assembled to clean up the derailment.

I’m working on posting a great picture, but everytime I try, it says “file or photo is too large”
resize it or decrease color range, give that a try
 
   / Rail roads and their tracks. #1,908  
ok, see post 1906 or my picture below. This was a fairly big deal for my little village. I counted quite a few cranes and support vehicles. Apparently, the cars laid on their sides even while going real slow. I’ve never seen freight move more than 10-15MPH.

The dirt looking area was cleared with dozers-it was wooded. They had to make a staging area to park all the equipment. Note they made a temporary crossing across the tracks and a second staging area. What are all the white block-looking things? Was thinking absorbent material?
Must have been amazing to watch.

1653164861781.jpeg
 
Last edited:
   / Rail roads and their tracks. #1,909  
Maybe this one from:

FRA records show the first derailment occurred on December 11, 2019, and caused 135-thousand dollars in damage: 50-thousand dollars in track damage and equipment damages totaling 85-thousand dollars.

That incident was in the area of Route 100 in Montchanin.

and



Bruce
 
   / Rail roads and their tracks. #1,910  
Maybe this one from:

FRA records show the first derailment occurred on December 11, 2019, and caused 135-thousand dollars in damage: 50-thousand dollars in track damage and equipment damages totaling 85-thousand dollars.

That incident was in the area of Route 100 in Montchanin.
Thanks, Bruce.
I live VERY close to there, and farm hay fields within 1 mile of there.
The derailment happened almost exactly one year ago today
 
Last edited:
 
Top