MF135 diesel miss/stalls, injector pump or fuel pump?

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My dad's 1974 MF135 diesel has issues. This is long, but I want to be detailed in my explanation and give full context.

Dad passed away about a year ago, neighbor has helped out a bit, as I am unable to visit often, and uses the tractor some. Mom isn't real sure what all has been done recently, but it stalled out when a second neighbor was helping brush hog, and wouldn't restart.

My sister visited yesterday, and it did start for her, after extended cranking, it fired up. She and mom were able to swap the brush hog for 5' tiller and tilled part if the garden, when it acted up again. Engine RPM would rise, then fall off, then run a bit, then repeat, then stalled and not restart.

I got there today, and did the basic checks, oil ok, drained fuel bowl (no water), and cranked it over. After cranking longer than it should (20-30 seconds?), it caught, stumbled, but fired up. I got it out of the garden and back to the pole barn, left it running... noticed an occasional miss at idle, revved it to about 1300-1400 RPM and let it run a few mminutes, it started the higher revs, then drop off, the back to steady, then repeat, then started to stall and I shut it down.

It puts me in mind of how it acted when I ran it out of fuel, a very memorable experience as a teenager (30 years or so ago), and geesh was my ol man p!$$ed, we had to bleed the fuel system out in the field... some things you never forget! So when I've heard that high rev/stumble/normal cycle, I stop and fuel up right then!

But fuel level is fine. Fuel pump looks newer, but I have no idea how new. I know dad had the injection pump rebuilt, but that could have been 10 years ago. Fuel pump would be easier to change, to rule out if nothing else, but what are injection pump symptoms?

Any feedback, ideas, experiences, or suggestions are welcome.
 
   / MF135 diesel miss/stalls, injector pump or fuel pump? #2  
Fuel filter? Sludge at bottom of fuel tank? Sounds like it might be starved for fuel?
 
   / MF135 diesel miss/stalls, injector pump or fuel pump?
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Neighbor might have changed fuel filter, it looks newer, but no way to tell, other than I know I didn't change it, the date and hours aren't wrote on it! Fuel bowl was clean, clear fuel came out when I drained it today, to check for water.
 
   / MF135 diesel miss/stalls, injector pump or fuel pump? #4  
Did you check/clean/replace the air filter?

If it were me, I'd just change out the fuel filter for a new one.

Maybe a small pinhole (happened to me) leak in the fuel line to the injectors?

Good luck,

KC
 
   / MF135 diesel miss/stalls, injector pump or fuel pump? #5  
I had a similar issue with a clogged fuel line on my 135 about 7 years ago. While I could have cleaned it out, I replaced it with a new one and all has been well (knock on wood) since then.

Alan
 
   / MF135 diesel miss/stalls, injector pump or fuel pump? #6  
Check if the strain on the fuel shut-off under the tank, if this is missing or come loose you are in all kinds of pain when it comes to fuel delivery. You can buy a new strain at a MF dealer.
 
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I had mom order fuel filters today, and when they arrive, I plan to change the fuel filter, blow out the lines from the tank to pump to filter housing, and thanks to the suggestion from Agvg, check for any strainer at the tank.
 
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Finally got back to dad's ol 135...

Had to repair the cable from the battery to the starter, it was coming out of the crimped end at the starter, so I replaced the cable with a longer one, cleaned both ends well, and got that back on. I replaced the fuel filter a week or so ago, that's when I found the cable issue.

So, after the filter change, fuel flow was clearly an issue.. as there was no flow. Yesterday, I got the tank removed, drained, and found the fuel strainer/valve assembly totally clogged. I'll be putting it back together today or tomorrow, and would guess it will fire right up when purged of air and properly primed.

Pictures of before and after cleaning the strainer.
 

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   / MF135 diesel miss/stalls, injector pump or fuel pump?
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After putting the fuel tank back on, the lines all hooked up, fuel system bled, the ol Massey fired right up. Ran it today, with the rake and then baler, ran fine!

Lesson learned, check the screen on the fuel tank valve.
 
   / MF135 diesel miss/stalls, injector pump or fuel pump? #10  
It puts me in mind of how it acted when I ran it out of fuel, a very memorable experience as a teenager (30 years or so ago), and geesh was my ol man p!$$ed, we had to bleed the fuel system out in the field... some things you never forget! So when I've heard that high rev/stumble/normal cycle, I stop and fuel up right then!

I have the exact same memory with my Dad and his new MF 135 in the mid 70s. Then the second (and likely third) time I ran it out of fuel I knew how to prime it and knew not to confess my sin.:rolleyes:
 

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