LS Tractor Oil, Gas, & Air Filter Information

[Short Game]

re: LS Tractor Oil, Gas, & Air Filter Information

http://www.napafilters.com/filterlookup/

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I got the Napa 1334 for my R4010. I see that the 1334 has a physically larger can and a lower bypass pressure. There are some differences I don't understand and some I do. Both have the same max flow rate. I don't think I'll worry about burst pressure, as I haven't popped it yet.

A comparison of Napa 1064 and 1334:

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Napa 1064:

Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube/Transmission
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 2.944
Outer Diameter Top: 3.243
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 20X1.5 MM
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 16
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=14/30
Burst Pressure-PSI: 355
Max Flow Rate: 9-11 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 21

Gasket Diameters
Number - O.D. -- I.D. -- Thk.
Attached 2.475 2.173 0.233

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Napa 1334

Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 3.194
Outer Diameter Top: 3.252
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 20X1.5 MM
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=22/40
Burst Pressure-PSI: 280
Max Flow Rate: 9-11 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 19

Gasket Diameters
Number - O.D. - I.D. - Thk.
Attached 2.475 2.173 0.233

 

[Klorinth]

Guys I REALLY need your help!

I'm in the middle of my 50 hour maintenance and need the right number for the hydraulic filter. I thought I had the right one from the TYM forum but when I took the original one off it looked different. Larger and higher seal. Thread looks the same.

I have the smaller S3L engine. The WIX site doesn't seem to have info on it.

Can any of you please help. The wife is not happy to have the tractor in her garage.

 

[Klorinth]

So I have tracked down the filter numbers sold by the dealer and they match what I bought. The NAPA dealer could only guess that the filter was changed since i bought the tractor.

So I need to either wait to hear from someone here or just try to use it. I really don't like the idea of putting it on and pouring in the fluid only to have it leak the first time I start it up. Such a big difference in gasket size is making me nervous.

If there is anyone that has changed these, please let me know what you found.

 

[Short Game]

re: LS Tractor Oil, Gas, & Air Filter Information

Post your model number and maybe you'll get someone who knows. Saying it's an S3L might not be enough.

 

[Klorinth]

Montana T2334, 2007
Mitsubishi S3L diesel engine

All of the other numbers I can find line up with what others have used with the TYM, Montana, and LS. there are other manufacturers that use the same Mitsubishi engines.

 

[toxicjeeper]

re: LS Tractor Oil, Gas, & Air Filter Information

ShortGame..I am coming up on my 50 hour service and took the Hydrolic filter # into Napa and got quoted at 55 dollars! Does this sound about right or is the price high? Been awhile since i bought one and they have to order it in so i want to make sure i got the right one..Napa 1715 or wix 51715..not sure which he used but your post said either would work..Eng is the same from your 4010 to my 5020..

Also wondering if you had the wix Number for the oil filter..

 

[Short Game]

re: LS Tractor Oil, Gas, & Air Filter Information

ShortGame..I am coming up on my 50 hour service and took the Hydrolic filter # into Napa and got quoted at 55 dollars! Does this sound about right or is the price high? Been awhile since i bought one and they have to order it in so i want to make sure i got the right one..Napa 1715 or wix 51715..not sure which he used but your post said either would work..Eng is the same from your 4010 to my 5020..

Also wondering if you had the wix Number for the oil filter..

I think you are thinkig of Rockin' Rod's post.

I don't think I posted anyting about WIX numbers, as the dealer and NAPA are about it for me around here. I don't remember the number of the hydraulic filter, but yes, NAPA was quite a bit higher than the LS dealer, so I got mine there.

 

[ozley]

ShortGame..I am coming up on my 50 hour service and took the Hydrolic filter # into Napa and got quoted at 55 dollars! Does this sound about right or is the price high? Been awhile since i bought one and they have to order it in so i want to make sure i got the right one..Napa 1715 or wix 51715..not sure which he used but your post said either would work..Eng is the same from your 4010 to my 5020..

Also wondering if you had the wix Number for the oil filter..

I went to my dealer for my filters an both together were less than $60 mine is U5030

 

[Short Game]

re: LS Tractor Oil, Gas, & Air Filter Information

For me, NAPA won out on the engine oil filter. The dealer came out quite a bit better on the hydraulic.

 

[DwightD123]

re: LS Tractor Oil, Gas, & Air Filter Information

R4041EZ
NAPA brand.
Air: (Inner) NAPA 2985 (Outer) NAPA 6438
Hydro: NAPA 1715
Fuel: NAPA 3128
Oil: NAPA 1064 (has bypass and anti drainback)

I have the 4041EZ and called my dealer to price out his stuff and he said there is no cross-reference for Wix and Napa, etc yet. Is this true or is he just behind? He doesn't come across as someone that is on top of things. What I wouldn't want to do is cause any recourse for LS to not honor a warranty issue down the road. So far they have been nothing but great to work with but there has been nothing big to worry about.
So thoughts?

 

[boomer632]

re: LS Tractor Oil, Gas, & Air Filter Information

I have the 4041EZ and just did my 50 hours service of ALL filters. I used all NAPA filters. I did go to my local NAPA and priced the filters after I priced them online. He couldnt even come close to the internet prices I got. My price was actually lower than what he gets them for from NAPA. I ordered mine online from fleetfilter

1) There are 3 drain plugs for the hydraulic fluid.

2) The manual says it takes 11.4 gallons of hydraulic fluid. I found that it only takes about 10.

3) Oil capacity calls for 1.9 gallons. I found that it only takes about 1.5 with filter.

As for the filters, I used all NAPA brand.

Air: (Inner) NAPA 2985 (Outer) NAPA 6438

Hydro: NAPA 1715

Fuel: NAPA 3128

Oil: NAPA 1064 (has bypass and anti drainback)

 

[Short Game]

re: LS Tractor Oil, Gas, & Air Filter Information

Bump.

 

[dlauffenburger]

re: LS Tractor Oil, Gas, & Air Filter Information

Short Game,

What does "Bump" mean, i see it on several posts.

 

[Short Game]

re: LS Tractor Oil, Gas, & Air Filter Information

Short Game,

What does "Bump" mean, i see it on several posts.

It is just to move a relevant thread back to the front page. Giving it a "bump."

Rockinrod tried to get this pertinent info stickied to keep it up front. The question comes up repeatedly, and probably should remain on top.

 

[Sublifer]

re: LS Tractor Oil, Gas, & Air Filter Information

A little google check on that wix 51715 hydraulic filter and found a pretty good price:

Wix 51715

Not sure if this is the right one for my R4047 but I already bought one from my dealer so It'll be a while before I need to revisit this.

 

[LittleBlueTractor]

re: LS Tractor Oil, Gas, & Air Filter Information

LS S3010 Filters

Air: Wix 46438, NAPA 6438

Fuel: Wix 33262, NAPA 3262, LS part number 40056438

Hydraulic: Wix 51715, NAPA 1715, LS part number 40007638

Oil: Wix 51365, NAPA 1365, LS part number 40056451

 

[Sublifer]

re: LS Tractor Oil, Gas, & Air Filter Information

Do all of the LS tractors use the same hydraulic filter?

 

[LittleBlueTractor]

re: LS Tractor Oil, Gas, & Air Filter Information

According to my manual the valves are supposed to adjusted on the S3010 as part of the 50 hour service. Here are the instructions from the service manual if you are a DIYer:



I really like the "wrench in the sleeve" 3rd-hand trick on the second page.:laughing:

 

[LittleBlueTractor]

re: LS Tractor Oil, Gas, & Air Filter Information

LS S3010 Filters

Air: Wix 46438, NAPA 6438 (WRONG!)

Fuel: Wix 33262, NAPA 3262, LS part number 40056438

Hydraulic: Wix 51715, NAPA 1715, LS part number 40007638

Oil: Wix 51365, NAPA 1365, LS part number 40056451

JUST DISCOVERED I WAS WRONG ON THE AIR FILTER -- THIS IS THE CORRECT PART NUMBER:

Air: Wix 46449, NAPA 6449

Sorry -- see my post with pictures of both air filters

 

[DwightD123]

re: LS Tractor Oil, Gas, & Air Filter Information

So I want to verify that you guys didn't change the oil or hydro at the 50hr maintenance. The owners manual only says to change the oil and hydro filter...not the fuel filter and not the fluids. I could really save the money right now but dont want to do anything that isn't in the best interest of long-term care of the tractor. Thanks in advance for the input.