L3540 Auto Throttle Advance... how does it work? what does it do?

   / L3540 Auto Throttle Advance... how does it work? what does it do? #1  

jiggseob

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Round Hill, Alberta
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Kubota B6200 HST
2008-ish Kubota L3540 HST with 723 loader. Theres a long back-story. Tractor came to us by a lock-stock&barrel purchase of some farm-land. It was sitting in the bush for at least the last 10 years, and the (5 years ago deceased) previous owner left the tractor in the corner of the yard because it died there. No manuals to be found. No idea why the tractor died, how bad it died, or what made owner decide to go to town and buy another rather than repair this one. And the bushes grew around it. We dragged it into the shop. Drained 10~ gals of normal-looking-smelling diesel fuel, to be discarded. Removed fuel filter, found that contents of fuel filter bowl contained not-diesel, but something that smelled almost like paint thinner; maybe thats what gasoline smells like after being blended with diesel and sits for 10+ years. Anyways, removed flushed tank and lines, refilled with clean fresh fuel, and it started right up and ran nice. Maybe the old-fellow was told that if one mistakenly puts gasoline in their diesel tractor, and runs it until it quits, the injection-pump is toast and a few thousand $$$ is required to make it better; and rather than that he just purchased another.

In the case of the Denso injection pumps on Kubota engines, they can withstand some mis-fuel event(s). As we have found with this one, at least one. Has the overall life of the injection pump been shortened by running on gasoline? Maybe, hard to know until the pump craters. But for now, it starts right up and runs nice. We have also changed hydraulic oil and filter, and engine oil and filter, and changed coolant.

Now to the reason for the post... After running for a minute at various engine speed, it seems to throttle itself down, down, down, and then die and refuse to restart. Set the hand-throttle back to idle and it starts up.

This tractor looks to have "Auto Throttle Advance". I have no idea what that does. There looks to be some sort of electrical thing, rotating position sensor or actuator on the injection pump shaft that the throttle cable rotates to speed-up or slow-down the throttle. Is this "Auto Throttle Advance" feature sensing the transmission in neutral, heel-toe-hst control at neutral, and then some gadget decides I don't want the engine running-fast and slows it down and stops it? What does this "Response" turn-button do?

If anyone knows where I can find .pdf operator and/or service manuals for this model, that would be great as well.
 

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   / L3540 Auto Throttle Advance... how does it work? what does it do? #2  
The HST Response dial adjusts how smoothly the transmission reacts to pressing or releasing the HST pedal.
The Throttle Advance links the HST pedal to the throttle, so that rpm's increase as you press the HST pedal.

There are L40 series manuals on the kubotabooks.com web site I believe.
It sounds like you currently have a fuel issue. You replaced the bad fuel, and I assume filters. Start disconnecting fuel lines from the tank out and confirm flow. Also cracked fuel lines on the suction side of the lift pump can cause stalling by sucking air.
 
   / L3540 Auto Throttle Advance... how does it work? what does it do? #3  
This is an awesome tractor, how many hours on the clock?

Sounds like you have fuel issue. Check for debris in tank, add anti-bacteria/algae additive to fresh fuel, replace filter, blow all lines and once you put everything together don't forget to bleed the system!!!


 
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Got the manuals, thank you Chewwy for the links.

After reading the manuals, have the controls figured out, specifically how to disable the "Auto Throttle Advance". Tractor spent the day baling, very capably driving a New Holland 315 square-baler.
 

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