I need to sell Mossflower Woods, and sooner rather than later...

[JDgreen227]

Do the maths then re-read the first post. Mossflowerwoods is spending the equivalent of a full working week every month on TBN while his farm goes to pieces around him. And its easy to see if his posts are 'serious study' or not. Frankly it looks to me like most of them are just passing the time.

Unfortunately it sounds like I'm trolling here. Thats not my intention. The guy has a problem. He's hooked on TBN and he needs to get over it.

At 4647 posts over a 17 month period, I come up with an average of just over 9 posts per day. Want to tell us how you arrived at the inane calculation that he is wasting 40 hours a month here at 9 posts a day? Say, round it to 270 posts a month, five minutes per post, I come up with 1350 minutes or 22.5 hours. DO THE MATH YOURSELF. I composed this post in less than two minutes. And why do you consider it any of your business how another member spends his time?

 

[DavidNPro]

It never ceases to amaze me how people are so fast to jump to conclusions especially when they don't know all the details. From what I have seen from David on here he has seemed to have the best of intentions. I am not saying that TBN is or is not a contributing factor into the situation. However, I do not see how spending time on here is different than watching sports on TV, going out golfing once a week, or the like is any different. Its crazy to think though that "we" can diagnose a problem such as this over the internet and call someone out on it.

Anyway, I am done ranting. David I wish you the best, and hope that you feel you can continue to talk to most of "us". If you ever need to chat just to vent, feel free to PM me anytime. Situations like this are very difficult and have seen it happen with my relatives several times. Just keep calm and work at it together. But as mentioned above, be sure that nobody is giving up too much of who they are in the process.

 

[TripleR]

While I accept that there is always an inherent risk of attack, second guessing, judging when one posts on a public forum, I fail to see how anything David has said would justify any of that in this case. He advertised his property for sale after an original post in which he had revealed some decisions he was going to have to make in order to salvage his marriage.

Those of us who feel we have come to know and like David and other caring individuals offered advice and condolences in an effort to lighten the burden.

One person lays the blame squarely on one minute aspect of his life and defends it claiming the OP opened himself up to it and "asked for advice"; didn't see where David asked for anything.

Members come on here to announce an illness, injury etc. and don't expect a lecture on proper healthy living "you should have taken better care of yourself" etc.

I just fail to see how attacks on David or how he is living his life serves any purpose and I find it very distasteful.

 

[jonnyc1999]

Hey David, I know you and your wife will be just fine. Having met you and your family, you are all great people and together you can get through anything. You've been through a lot this year with broken bones, financial setbacks, and disappointments on your property.

I wanted to second someone's suggestion to post the property on craigslist. One of my daily rituals is to search on craigslist for "Farm", "acreage", "homestead" and a few other terms. You should get a lot of traffic from both Fredricksburg and Richmond if you set up your listing properly. You have a LOT of beautiful and desirable aspects to your property that you can highlight with some good photography.

 

[k0ua]

While I accept that there is always an inherent risk of attack, second guessing, judging when one posts on a public forum, I fail to see how anything David has said would justify any of that in this case. He advertised his property for sale after an original post in which he had revealed some decisions he was going to have to make in order to salvage his marriage.

Those of us who feel we have come to know and like David and other caring individuals offered advice and condolences in an effort to lighten the burden.

One person lays the blame squarely on one minute aspect of his life and defends it claiming the OP opened himself up to it and "asked for advice"; didn't see where David asked for anything.

Members come on here to announce an illness, injury etc. and don't expect a lecture on proper healthy living "you should have taken better care of yourself" etc.

I just fail to see how attacks on David or how he is living his life serves any purpose and I find it very distasteful.

Well Said TripleR, and I agree completely.

James K0UA

 

[jinman]

Hey, let's not be guilty of the same types of harsh judgement against Alchemysa. From his history, I'd say that he is making a calculated judgement whether it be right or wrong. He didn't present his opinion as non-refutable evidence, just his opinion. I've learned over the years to pay attention to my harshest critics. They are the ones I learn from. I think the advice was given without insult and/or name calling and was meant well. If he is wrong, I think from his history on TBN, Alchemysa will be the first to admit he was wrong if shown facts like maybe a miscalculation. He's entitled to his opinion without being shamed for it. At least, that's my opinion for what it's worth.

David, I know we don't know the details of your day-to-day life. I also know you've been super-stessed with a job loss and big disappointments in what you expected to accomplish with your place. I think that would make any of us edgy and hard to get along with. My deepest depression and self-doubt came about when I was unemployed several years ago. I didn't lose my job, but gave it up for something I thought was more important. I was wrong. By the time I got back to work, I was ready to strangle everyone around me. I can identify completely with your feelings and actions while unemployed.

I also know that you talk about your farm, tractor, motorcycle, animals and other things you have. I have no way of knowing, but it seems you had lots of "toys" while your wife may not have had much but hard work and frustration. I know I have to be careful that I see the material needs of my wife and make sure her expectations are met before I buy a new 'something' for myself. This may not be a fair assessment, but I think you need to give up some of those material things to show your wife what is important. Also, try to just do nice things that are unexpected. A card or flowers that say, "I miss you," may do a world of good. I'm sure you know all of this and I know very little of the details I'm speaking to. Again, it's just an observation that should be taken for what it's worth, based on the things you know that we have no business knowing. We all hate to see this setback and all want you to come out the other side being stronger and having your loving family. That's the ultimate goal of all your friends here.

 

[MossRoad]

If you stand on your lawn and holler long enough, someone's going to ask what you're hollering about.

As someone that spends a more than fair amount of time here on TBN, I have to say in general, when someone posts their life story on the internet they are opening themselves up to the thoughts and responses of tens of thousands of folks. They opened the door to a public critique of their life choices. Were they expecting no observances of their life choices that may include differing opinions?

 

[dave1949]

David, I wish you well in resolving the problems.

From a "fly on the wall" perspective, the idea that comes to mind is that you tried to build your dream for others perhaps? The rural land, animals, etc. represent putting your loved ones into the idealized bucolic setting that you want, or you think that is what your family wants, or what you think is best for them. You said everyone was initially happy on the farm. I wonder if they were telling you what wanted to hear, or you were hearing something they weren't really saying?

I know my dreams are not always the same as my wife's, and vice versa. I guess we have been lucky to be able to discuss these things and arrive at something mutually acceptable. There is always some give and take needed.

If getting your wife and girls back to a lifestyle they enjoy resolves things, that's great. But, I would have to say if you can't ask your wife if that is truly the case and get an honest answer you can count on, then changing houses isn't going to fix your relationship.

Hang in there.

 

[joshuabardwell]

Nine posts a day is not that many, especially when some of them are one offs... like this.

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[brin]

Nine posts a day is not that many, especially when some of them are one offs... like this.

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Exactly right and for many of us who are working on the computer 8 or more hours a day...every once in a while is a needed distraction to hop on to TBN to clear our heads...at least for me...Then I go back to business....I'll bet that's the way David and many others do it....Maybe the Aussies just sit and stare at the computer...? I mean..hey, their culture may differ...:confused3: