How Do You Deal With Tailgaters?

[Eagle1]

Yeah, we get that in Chicago, too.

I have to say the city I don't mind drive around is the west side of Indianapolis. Traffic always seems to flow just right. South and east/west sides of St. Louis never seemed bad, either, the 4 years we went through there fairly often.

West is OK once you get past 6 Flags (Eureka) and Pacific, terrible from Fenton until then.

 

[Torvy]

Same here, when we have the rare luxury of 4 lanes each direction. Because Philly is a much older city, and most of the routes in are cut thru a hilly river valley, we more often have only 2 lanes with enough traffic to fill 4 - 6.

Out-of-staters are almost universally shocked or terrified, the first time they experience the Schuylkill Expressway, known locally as the Sure-Kill Deathway. It was already operating beyond its design capacity when they opened the first few segments in the 1960's, and it has gotten exponentially worse, each decade since.

I've only been in PHI once. Landed and took an Uber Black to Wilmington, DE for work. I didn't really get to see any of Philadelphia.

We drove around it and went through Allentown to Hershey and stopped at Gettysburg. We avoided NYC on that trip, too.

 

[MossRoad]

West is OK once you get past 6 Flags (Eureka) and Pacific, terrible from Fenton until then.

Guess we were just lucky. Made about 50 trips through there over a 4 year period.

 

[WinterDeere]

I've only been in PHI once. Landed and took an Uber Black to Wilmington, DE for work. I didn't really get to see any of Philadelphia.

Great city to visit, esp. Olde City, where everything from the Declaration of Independence to the Constitution were drafted and signed. You can also see one of the country's best art museums, what's left of Ben Franklin's house, Edgar Allen Poe's and the Betsy Ross houses, etc.

But I wouldn't want to live there. It's a big, noisy, dirty old city.

We drove around it and went through Allentown to Hershey and stopped at Gettysburg. We avoided NYC on that trip, too.

I was in Allentown yesterday, but I didn't listen to the Billy Joel song while there. I live in the rural 'burbs, about half way between Philly and Allentown.

 

[BackRoad]

Yeah, we get that in Chicago, too.

I have to say the city I don't mind drive around is the west side of Indianapolis. Traffic always seems to flow just right. South and east/west sides of St. Louis never seemed bad, either, the 4 years we went through there fairly often.

Oh, but the East side of Indy with all the construction is the evil twin of the west side.