health care, retirement, how is it handled there?

   / health care, retirement, how is it handled there? #1  

Mac624

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I have had a talked with a buddy today about a guy who is member of our VFD.
This guy is on holidays in the states once a year, and wanted to move over.
In Germany, the company, which you are working for is paying the bills for the health insurance, which is a government thing. Even they pay for your retirement.

How is it handled in the USA?
 
   / health care, retirement, how is it handled there? #2  
Hmm. Some companies have pensions that they contribute to for your retirement. Some companies have 401K savings plans that you can put a portion of your paycheck into that is tax deferred until you retire. Some companies match all or part of your contribution to the 401K. Some folks just have to save on their own with an IRA (individual retirement account). And some folks do not contribute to any retirement plans at all because they either choose not to or cannot afford to, needing all of their money for living expenses, due to many reasons.

Thennnn, there is the Social Security program, which is government controlled. Lots of people (most people) pay into it through taxes and get some back when they retire until they die.

That's just some of the ways to fund our retirements.
 
   / health care, retirement, how is it handled there? #3  
I work for the local municipality here. We have it good right now. The city pays me a good wage along with contributing to my retirement plan. Right now, they also pick up the portion that I would typically pay. That, to me is a 9% bonus every year. Things could change at anytime. My health care is mostly paid by the city. I think I pay about $50 USD a month for my portion.
But keep in mind, I am in the minority here.
 
   / health care, retirement, how is it handled there? #4  
I, too, worked for a city government, but another month will be 19 years since I retired. When I was working, the city paid for my health insurance and I paid for my dependents (two kids and a wife and later just the wife). And pension plans change all the time. When I started, I paid 3% into the pension plan and all police officers paid the same and retired the same after 20 years or more; one-half the current pay of a patrolman. They later changed it so we could retire at a larger percentage, but also paid 9% into the plan. And then another change, so for many years I paid 12.5% of my gross salary into the pension plan and the city paid another 25%, and we retired at a percentage of our high 5 year average salary; the percentage depending on years of service. The escalation clause is 4% of what I retired at (not cumulative; just a pay raise once a year and the same amount each year). We could keep our health insurance, but I had to pay for both my wife and myself. Over the years, the $100 deductible went to $300 and then many years ago to $1,000. Now I'm on Medicare with AARP's Medigap (supplement) through the city. And just for my wife's health insurance alone with $1,000 deductible and then an 80/20 split, I pay $515 a month, plus a bit more then for vision and dental insurance. One more year and she'll get on Medicare, also. Altogether, I'm now paying $778.14 a month for health insurance.
 
   / health care, retirement, how is it handled there?
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Thanks for the input,

as I am selfemployed, I pay the health insurance for me and the Junior, wife is insured at work as a nurse in a seniors rest, even they pay retirement for her. I get around 200 $/month for Junior, cause he is in school and I get it as long as he is on eductaion.
For Youngest daughter, she is 23, we get the same amount, but it is sended to her cause she is living in a big city and doing education, too. She will be end it in summer, after that no money for her.

I have had an accident in 1991 at work. This accident gives me a livelong retirement of app. 700$/ year. Every company must pay a special insurance, so if You will be hurt t work, they pay for everything to get You back at work.

That means: The hospital, the medics etc...
 
   / health care, retirement, how is it handled there? #6  
Mac624 said:
I have had a talked with a buddy today about a guy who is member of our VFD.
This guy is on holidays in the states once a year, and wanted to move over.
In Germany, the company, which you are working for is paying the bills for the health insurance, which is a government thing. Even they pay for your retirement.

How is it handled in the USA?
When I retired I had a 401K (savings plan) pension and social security (government). Medical was paid from a medical savings plan from employer. Until I turned 65 I was adding $500 to savings plan a month to cover more cost. When I turned 65 my wife and I went on Medicare (government sponsored senior citizen medical plan). Also purchased a supplemental insurance. The total for wife and I is $480 a month. The medical savings plan pays all but $100 of this amount is payed by medical savings plan.
I took a total buyout from the company for my pension and 401K. Invested this money and have not looked back since.
 
   / health care, retirement, how is it handled there? #7  
I lucked out when my big name employer closed in 1986. The next job i got was with a big name health insurer. When I retired I took the pension from the first employer as a lump sum, the pension from the second employer in monthly payments. The second employer carries health insurance for it's retirees at minimal cost, $65 per month for the wife and I.

Since I never trusted government promises, I started putting 15% of my pay in investments then IRA's starting with my first job. I got some good investment advice and my retirement income is at least what my takehome was before I retired.
 
   / health care, retirement, how is it handled there? #8  
For self-employed, its buy your own insurance(get a tax break), fund your own retirement(IRA's and regular investments), and pay your share and what would be your employer's share into social insecurity. I don't fiquire them into my plan, that way I won't be dissapointed. Hope for the best, plan for the worst,and expect it to be somewhere in the middle.
 

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