foton 404 tractor fluids a d where to put them :)

[Wa11banger]

Hello Hickory Creek I am glad this post can be of some assistance. The guys here have been excellent at supporting my newbie questions and more than helpful.

I have not found a cross over filter since the stock ones for my 2004 are readily available and were shipped to my house in two days so I have stuck with them so far. I have never run straight diesel as a replacement for oil in anything although I have run replaced a quart or so of engine oil with a quart of kerosene to flush an engine and oil passages in a "new to me" used car gasoline engine before. However, I cannot speak to that being a good idea in a diesel engine or not due to kerosene being pretty much diesel fuel.

Hopefully Greg will chime in here and set us straight. Mine sounds just like my diesel truck only noisier. If you think you have a bad rod bearing I would suggest checking them by doing what you think you need to do anyway and drop the pan. Bearing replacement can be done with the engine still in the tractor if it is like my 2004 model.

If you are replacing all fluids I have already made another post on flushing the steering fluid with the process I used, and will be posting processes for the hydraulic system flush and the tranny and rearend very soon.

 

[Wa11banger]

Looks like Rich and I overlapped a little.. sound advice for sure

 

[greg_g]

Ignore the locals, that's like fighting fire with fire. Diesel (preferably kerosene) is good for flushing geaboxes and hydraulic systems, but not for engines or cooling systems. Use proper engine flush on engines, cooling system flush on cooling systems. If I recall the FT404 takes a filter cartridge rather than a spin-on. So lets start there. Given yours is 13 years old, there may have been a conversion - so is your oil filter a cartridge type? or a spin-on?

Drop the oil pan for cleaning before you start the engine flush process. Otherwise the flush will break (some of) that crud loose and recirculate it during the cleaning cycle. Matter of fact, you might want to clean the inside of the valve cover too. Get rid of the sludge, then use the engine flush.

See how the engine sounds after cleaning, then we can re-evaluate that knocking sound at idle.

//greg//

 

[Wa11banger]

Greg, if his 2000 is the same engine as my 2004 it is a spin on oil filter.

 

[Hickory Creek]

Spin on and I am in the process of ordering parts tomorrow Saturday, so will check on prices of other items, pan gasket, valve cover gasket. I think I need a new primer pump as mine feels like it does not have as much resistance as I remember and the shaft is wet. It has been a while and I do not recall. This thing will not start without being primed AND a shot of starting fluid.

This project has been delayed as its owner took the other tractor for a spin in the hollow and stuck it trying to cross a small spring that comes out from the roots of a tree. The whole hollow contains about 12 springs and is a marsh bottom. I tried to jack it out, but everything I put in it down about 20" before hitting solid ground. As I jacked the front bumper off the ground, it just drove the rear axle deeper into the muck. At the time I only had the use of one arm. I am slowly getting th left one back, another story.

MUST READ: The owner has said if I post a picture of the tractor she stuck, that she would pull her Sweet Sixteen off the rack and unload some of the old paper shells I reloaded in the late 60's with rock salt in my direction. I am going to try to put a short video on YOUTUBE which will stay up for a short time for my behalf. I cleaned up the language on the video as the first time down the path some non family site words were used.


STUCK TRACTOR 012 Copy - YouTube New to this, just foined so if it does not work, I will try to fix it

 

[Wa11banger]

man that is nice and stuck.. I am pretty sure you dont have the proper scuba tank on that thing to be diving in there

I thought I saw some good thick trees behind you I would use a come along and chains and winch it out before trying to jack it out. sling low on the tree. I have a 12,000 winch on a bolt on reciever I made for mine that hooks into the 3pt in the event I ever needed it if you could put something like that together quick you'd be out in a jiffy.

Good luck on the extraction