Ford 1710 Re-Prime

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Creamer

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I will post this even though I feel a little foolish.

I had a guy run my 1710 out of fuel. I had done this before and because I knew what was happening I had shut it off very quick and got it started after bleeding the injector lines at the injectors. This time that didn't work and I tried everything. Finally I had another guy who is a Mr. Fixit and owns a diesel tractor himself - he couldn't get it going. Then I got the main shop guy from the local farm equipment dealer to take a look at it and after about fifteen minutes he said "Fuel Pump needs a rebuild". I really could not believe that I went from a tractor running as well as it ever has to needing a fuel pump by someone running it out of fuel.

Mr. Fixit came back because he could not believe it either. We pulled this tractor all over a paved parking lot and took off a lot of rubber. It would not start we couldn't get the white smoke coming out of the exhaust. After about an hour of trying everything we could think of he pointed to one cap looking thing on the back of the fuel pump which looked like some kind of access port on the non-fuel end. My thought was "What is it going to hurt as my only other plan is to rebuild the fuel pump". This port had never been touched and it was tight tight. We cracked it open, air and then fuel shot out and we tightened it down. Tractor started immediately. Never been a problem since!

The bottom line is that fuel pumps rarely just go - they get weak and you notice power and slow starting issues. Don't jump to the standard (rebuild the pump" fix that many dealers recommend.
 
   / Ford 1710 Re-Prime #2  
I will post this even though I feel a little foolish.

I had a guy run my 1710 out of fuel. I had done this before and because I knew what was happening I had shut it off very quick and got it started after bleeding the injector lines at the injectors. This time that didn't work and I tried everything. Finally I had another guy who is a Mr. Fixit and owns a diesel tractor himself - he couldn't get it going. Then I got the main shop guy from the local farm equipment dealer to take a look at it and after about fifteen minutes he said "Fuel Pump needs a rebuild". I really could not believe that I went from a tractor running as well as it ever has to needing a fuel pump by someone running it out of fuel.

Mr. Fixit came back because he could not believe it either. We pulled this tractor all over a paved parking lot and took off a lot of rubber. It would not start we couldn't get the white smoke coming out of the exhaust. After about an hour of trying everything we could think of he pointed to one cap looking thing on the back of the fuel pump which looked like some kind of access port on the non-fuel end. My thought was "What is it going to hurt as my only other plan is to rebuild the fuel pump". This port had never been touched and it was tight tight. We cracked it open, air and then fuel shot out and we tightened it down. Tractor started immediately. Never been a problem since!

The bottom line is that fuel pumps rarely just go - they get weak and you notice power and slow starting issues. Don't jump to the standard (rebuild the pump" fix that many dealers recommend.

Mose diesel fuel systems need to be reprimed after running out of fuel, starting at the fuel filter(s) and then going to the injector pump bleed port followed by the injector fittings at the injectors themselves. You should do the repriming in that order. Not all injector pumps have bleed port on them in which case you fo from the filter(s) to the injector fittings.

Glad you got yours going and found the bleed port on your pump.
 
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I understand what you are saying but this certainly did not look like a bleed port and had never been opened (at least no wrench scratches on paint). Since the tractor is 25 years old, we couldn't believe it was a bleed port but now I know.
 

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