Dry my pastures out

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riptides

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Well observation and close inspection says I have standing water in some of my fields. It has been raining a bit this year, I am not sure if this standing water is the norm or not.

I prefer dry pastures, or at least pastures that move the water to water.

What can I do to dry my pastures out?

What did the old farmers use to dry them out? Did they not use a tile? How did they get it in ground?

Ideas?
-Mike Z.
 
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More info please- is there any place to cut a ditch to? If you tile the ground you need to have the tile run somewhere- a ditch? or to a lift pump, then to somewhere.

Alot of farm ground around my home town was tiled- they have machines that cut the trench, place the tile and then they back fill. You can do it by hand or back hoe as well, but you have to have the proper slope to the tile, no low or high spots and such.

What is your ground- clay, sandy, what?

inquiring minds want to know....
 
   / Dry my pastures out #3  
riptides said:
Well observation and close inspection says I have standing water in some of my fields. It has been raining a bit this year, I am not sure if this standing water is the norm or not.

I prefer dry pastures, or at least pastures that move the water to water.

What can I do to dry my pastures out?

What did the old farmers use to dry them out? Did they not use a tile? How did they get it in ground?

Ideas?
-Mike Z.
Good Questions
 
   / Dry my pastures out #4  
Mike,

We just did this on my uncle's farm this past summer. We used my backhoe and ran the trenches to a small stream. We used the black perforated pipe.

The fields had been trenched probably back in the 20's or 30's. They had used a clay tile and more than likely dug by hand. We found some that ran a considerable distance. That backhoe is the best money I ever spent.

Rodger
 
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Mike,
I have read about an old technique like tiling, but without the "tile" ...an implement was pulled through the ground to create underground voids or channels ...the implement was a relatively thin blade with a torpedo shape at the bottom end (think of a subsoiler but with a streamlined business end)...once it entered the ground and was pulled along, a little tunnel was formed subsurface and the slit to the surface healed itself ...took a lot of power ...some times pulled by a drag line from a stationary engine at edge of field if the area would not support a tractor ...the "torpedo" compressed earth around its "bow wave" and left the tunnel with compressed earth sides in its "wake" ...much like horizontal compression boring
 
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RodgerF said:
Mike,

We just did this on my uncle's farm this past summer. We used my backhoe and ran the trenches to a small stream. We used the black perforated pipe.

The fields had been trenched probably back in the 20's or 30's. They had used a clay tile and more than likely dug by hand. We found some that ran a considerable distance. That backhoe is the best money I ever spent.

Rodger
Right On
 
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goaliedad said:
More info please....

Have creek with ample room for drainage to run water to.
Ground is muddy right now, good soil, little clay. Just poor drainage.

RogerF said:
...backhoe....

No more money, no backhoe, was thinking of a ditchwitch, perhaps w/e rental. Used one before, walkbehind type. Worked better than anticipated. May need to wait until full summer though.

JoelL4330 said:
...torpedo...

Cool. I'll need to ask around.

Thanks all.
-Mike Z.
 
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riptides said:
Have creek with ample room for drainage to run water to.
Ground is muddy right now, good soil, little clay. Just poor drainage.



No more money, no backhoe, was thinking of a ditchwitch, perhaps w/e rental. Used one before, walkbehind type. Worked better than anticipated. May need to wait until full summer though.



Cool. I'll need to ask around.

Thanks all.
-Mike Z.

What sort of soil are we dealing with? What's under it? (i.e. shale? slate? limestone?) How compacted are the pastures?

Drainage will help. Getting water to go through the soil helps too. Chisel plow or subsoilers can make a huge difference in soil structure.
 
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Farmwithjunk said:
What sort of soil are we dealing with? What's under it? (i.e. shale? slate? limestone?) How compacted are the pastures?

Drainage will help. Getting water to go through the soil helps too. Chisel plow or subsoilers can make a huge difference in soil structure.


I don't know dirt.

My equipment is leaving ruts that fill with water. I stand in it long enough I sink a foot. I doubt it is compact, because it is muddy as all hades.

Only a few areas actually don't move the water to the creek, they get boggy now. Last summer, no problems, this summer, wet, and now, mud pits. I guess I have to go dig up a spot.


TIA
-Mike Z.
 
   / Dry my pastures out #10  
Be careful, Riptides. You might have protected wetlands there, and drying them out would run afoul of the DEP, or whatever agency you have in Virginia. At least, that's the case in NJ.
 

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